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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Sat May 17, 2008 3:16 pm

Nah mod arent mad.
But how can you punish someone for doing a bad thing while being nice to him?
Hey you quadrupple posted, please dont do it again and here you have a cookie for the inconvinience.
That wont really do it.

Autority sometimes needs some anger right?
Though the anger is not real. Its not personal. The mod himself isnt mad at the member, but the role of being the mod is mad at the member.
And thats a good thing, its needed.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sat May 17, 2008 4:26 pm

Necrosis wrote:Mods should have a good sense of humor.

Now that makes me mad :wink:

But seriously though, we do. We are exactly like you guys, except we have more powers then you :D

Sometimes I do get pissed off, a member could just post something utterly idiotic or decide to glue PVC with a hot glue gun after four pages of a thread telling him otherwise. That's really only when I get mad.

Or if I PM a member for an infraction and they end up throwing a hissy fit at me. Then I get mad because they're fluttering away a chance at joining a great community and hobby and they're wasting my time over a small posting infraction no one but me and them know about.

So yeah, as long as you don't do something incredibly stupid, you should be fine.

Has anyone here seen Band of Brothers? If you have, remember at the very end when Carwood Lipton gets promoted to 1st Lieutenant? Well he has to join a different company because the Army thinks that the men in his old company wont have the same respect for him because they've known him for so long, compared to someone they don't know.

Well sometimes I feel like that here, I'd been a member for a year before becoming a Mod. So when making decisions on whether to follow you up on an infraction, delete a post or lock a thread it can be hard to do without coming out like a complete jerk. Whereas with newer members, it doesn't matter as much :wink:

Nah kidding, newer members are more fragile and need to be handled carefully :)
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Sat May 17, 2008 4:33 pm

POLAND_SPUD wrote:jrrdw the main difference between you and other mods is that you do everything in a too intrusive manner... what is more, you deal with minor problems like off-topic posts etc. and you delete them... the real problem is that it does not solve anything... first of all you get responeses like "why did you deleted my post?!" and then you start topic explaining this... as a result there are more offtopic posts (like this one - it has nothing to do with spudguns)...

all in all you get annoyed, people get annoyed at you and it does not change anything...


So far your the only one that has felt this way. "Intrusive" naaa, it has to be in a 1 on 1 manor, there is no other way to do it. We mods can't group 5 different members together because of 1 members post.

What do you mean by "topic explaining"? This thread is not off topic yet, and hopefully no one will get off topic....."oh look, a squirrel", example from a discussion about off topic posting a long time ago.

As far as deleting post, I only delete post that are totally off topic, threating to other members, (that hasn't happened, and hopefully wont), or are about totally illegal things. I haven't had to deal with that yet eather. So not that I need to explain my self, thats just it in a nut shell.
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Unread postAuthor: trollhameran » Sat May 17, 2008 4:46 pm

I personally think it is good that the mods take there jobs seriously and delete posts that are totally off topic, it may seem like they are mad but if they didnt do this then the whole forum would be full of topics that end up having nothing to do with what the title is about and it would make finding any information very difficult
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Unread postAuthor: benstern » Sat May 17, 2008 7:17 pm

The mods are required to uphold the rules and maintain order in spudfiles. If they need to modify, lock, or even delete a topic it's because of a violation. They have to answer to pcguy if they do something out of spite or anger and frankly I don't think any of them want to have to go through that.

Even if they hate you they must follow the moderator rules and code of conduct.

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Unread postAuthor: BC Pneumatics » Sat May 17, 2008 11:37 pm

While I do believe rules must be adhered too, I must point out in my defense that I to crack a lot of jokes. :roll:
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Unread postAuthor: jook13 » Sun May 18, 2008 12:21 am

I guess while we are on the subject, this forum seems to be by far the most strict I have been on. I am not complaining but it does take a while to get used to.

Who here goes to work and never has a conversation about off-work topics? Its human nature to just converse and reply with whatever comes off the top of his head. I know theopia is there, but why go to a seperate site for that? seems to me a non spudgun related section should be that, anything else. On other forums the off-topic section is visited more because it gives people more of a chance to just banter and chat and get to know each-other, creating a stronger sense of community.

I guess in a nutshell, I am glad this site is here, I have learned a billion tons of info here, but I think you all should lighten up.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun May 18, 2008 2:08 am

The thing about work is that talking doesn't take up your office space with useless posts.

Sometimes forums have to be strict for their nature, and I think that Spudfiles has the right amount of strictness for it's dangerous nature.


Oh and for a strict forum, try roguesci.org :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Sun May 18, 2008 6:42 am

Oh and for a strict forum, try roguesci.org


Excellent example, you can get banned from there for not capitalizing your "I's" when refering to yourself, no I'm not kidding.

I'll go one better, here's a link to the "Banned For Life" thread over there. Just to give you guys a idea of how easy you really got it using this forum -- The Beast has feed upon. There has been mass bannings there. We got it easy here!
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Unread postAuthor: PCGUY » Sun May 18, 2008 10:31 am

I know first hand how hard it can be to be nice and also do your work too. The main thing I want people to understand is when something gets removed or changed, it's not personal. It's just business. I hate it when a member comes on, posts something, it gets locked then all of a sudden SpudFiles is evil and blah blah is an asshole etc.

It's just the job. If we allowed everything here, then this would be a very cluttered forum with little cannon discussion and more discussion about everything else.
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Sun May 18, 2008 4:59 pm

OMG that mod from roguesci is really mad!
Does he enjoy banning people??

On topic again:
I think that spudfiles is just as it should be. The rules are just perfect. Not too loose, not too strict.
And if one cant live by these rules, then he should screw off and may go play with the other kids until hes more intelligent and got better manners. :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Sun May 18, 2008 6:40 pm

In my view, it does seem like the moderation is getting more picky where it doesn't really matter - and in some ways, I'm even becoming discouraged from posting.

I write a post, then look at it - it's got some stuff that's not quite on-topic, and given the way things feel at the moment, I think a mod is likely to complain about it. So I take that stuff out, but that means I have to restructure the post, which takes time and effort.
What either then happens is I can't be bothered to finish it up, or I look at it and it doesn't seem like enough to be worth posting.

Or what I've done is "parrot" in a way, and although I've expanded on what was said before, I feel like it's going to get negative mod attention, and the same thing happens - I can't be bothered to rework it, or it doesn't look enough to be any use. And so it doesn't get posted.

Why should I go to the effort of writing a post when there's the threat of it being deleted because of a problem that's rather inconsequential?

You see the problem. You've probably noticed my posting has slowed to a crawl. Previously, I've posted dozens of times in a day. Recently, it's down to maybe two a day, sometimes not at all.

It just seems like things have been tightened up, and it's now a moddable offence to even hint at repeating something that's already been said, be even slightly off-topic, or do anything but give a straight answer to any question.
It may not be like that, but that's how it feels - to me, at least.
I don't know what others think, but I suspect I may not be completely alone.

Spudding isn't the safest hobby, I know, I've had some near misses - but restriction of posting in this way won't help.
I can understand the act of editing out dangerous information, correcting ambiguous grammar and rude words - the last two of which don't seem to be happening much, if at all.
I've been a mod myself, and I wouldn't have tolerated any of the different "misspellings" used to get past the word filters - perhaps milder ones I might let slide, but really a lot of it is unsuitable.
I know we're supposed to be mature - but some members are only 13, and other readers may be younger. Do you really think some of the profanity used on this forum is suitable reading for young children?

The innuendo and double entendres can be left to slide to some extent, because if someone can understand them, they're mature enough to.

But really, I doubt the changes to the moderation here adds to the safety of the hobby.
I can't see that many, if any, of the recent changes have made it any safer. In fact, I might even go so far as to say things have become less safe - sometimes people need to see something said a few times before it gets drilled into their head. A single mention of something important might get lost or missed - several mentions would be quite hard to fail to see. And I'm not worried about it cluttering anything - because I recognise the extreme importance of safety. If it needs to be beaten into someone's skull like a military tattoo, then so be it - if that takes clutter, then I'll surrender to clutter.

I don't have any problem with the old site rules, but the influx of changes doesn't sit so well with me. It's a change to what I'm used to, and I couldn't really see what I'd been doing previously is really a problem - which makes it hard to change. As they say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
I don't think what I did was "broke", so it's hard to want to fix it.

That's my thoughts on the matter. You can take them however you wish, but as I've already said, the way things are, I'm increasingly less inclined to visit, and really, right now, I'm only visiting out of habit, and posting due to some idea that I need to make the odd appearance.
Others may share those opinions, so I suspect some side effects are brewing.

Of course, if my post causes offence or a problem, I apologise, but here I am, posed with a direct question. So, I'm answering it as straight as I can.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Sun May 18, 2008 6:49 pm

rag explained it quite well.... that's more less what I think about it ( ekhm I don't know, Am I parroting or writing irrelevant stuff right now? :shock: )
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Sun May 18, 2008 7:02 pm

Wow Rag, thats a long way to read your a little worried about your post getting modded. Beleave it or not (to spite my post count) I read way more then I post.

Before I started moderating I sometimes felt the same way, but then I read on and when I come across something I think I can help with I put it out there. If it's been said all ready, read on. When I have a question, I ask it, no harm done.
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Sun May 18, 2008 7:45 pm

Personally, I don't think you guys are mad.
Do what you got to do, you all know more about this site's well being than I do. :wink:

Sometimes I may be mad (as in koookoo, loco, mad) But I do go to therapy. Still I would never take medication or ever ever, ever tell them about my secret hobby. :P 8)
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