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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:37 pm

I know that English is not my first lg but.. Is this right ? or does my english suck :?
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:54 pm

You're right Poland_Spud. Actually, there are several glaring spelling/grammar errors on the main pages. It doesn't exactly convey an air of professionalism, but I'm not running the place, and it really isn't worth griping about a few errors, so long as the message is clear.
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:20 pm

Nope the word should be "itself" although I could see how this one could cause some trouble even with us english first languagers.

You do pretty good Poland...at least your written communication seems to come across naturally? Do you speak it this well? What other languages do you know? I'm not even sure what the first language in Poland is these days.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:12 pm

Nope the word should be "itself"
that's what I thought but I couldn't belive that I have not seen it before

of course the language spoken in poland is polish :wink: (here is a crappy vid with one well known polish tongue twister --> http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=CG0vT0s89 ... re=related and a failed attempt to reproduce it -> http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=XbK7BivzynA (they are all drunk and that's why she is doing so well :D )

my spoken english is not as good as written but that's something that's true of most learners...

it's a bit difficult to write about spudgunning, pneumatics or building something as it's is not something you are being thought at schools... (you'll know what I mean when you try to learn a foreign language )

Overall it's good to learn a foreign lg becasue it makes you more aware of your own language as well as of cultural differences and generally it gives you a 'broader perspective'
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:39 pm

I took some German when I was in high school and it actually helped me to understand the fundamentals of English better. I can't speak or write much of it these days, but I'm amazed how much still comes back to me...reading it mostly...very little spoken.

With all the wars and occupations Poland has endured the last 100 years, I didn't know if the language had become more Russianized as of late.

Poland, if you become fluent speaking in english, you can pretty much write your own ticket to success in your part of the world. You've got a great head start....I recommend you continue honing your skill.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:47 pm

It does help me a bit but there are lots of poles who speak english quite well... so things have changed a lot

the number of words of russian origin is not as high as you'd think it's but poland is placed on the border of europe and asia so in fact it'll always be in a difficult situation :?

I took some German when I was in high school and it actually helped me to understand the fundamentals of English better.
I've read beowulf in old english and several other things in it and I have to tell you that english is basically a simplified version of german :) (no offence)
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:59 pm

Well... just to say.........

There are not that many similarities between the Russian language and Polish. They both use different alphabets so its kindof harder.

But on the other hand, Ukrainian and Russian languages do get alot of similarities because they use the same alphabet and they border each other. Also, there is a pretty good percentage of russian speakers in Kyiv (the capital)

Me, knowing the Ukrainian language myself (still need to improve :roll: ) know that russian words and ukrainian words are often intertwined, but it doesnt mean i understand russian well. I also wouldnt understand much polish,(but my mom does cause she was born there and lived there for 9 years) because its harder for me to understand. But there are similar words that if i heard them, i would know what it means.

It is always good knowing another language and soon i will be tri-lingual (English, Spanish, and Ukrainian) so you really never learn enough. And even as i learn spanish, i discover words that are the same in the Ukrainian language and have the same meaning, so thats always interesting to me.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:11 pm

I can understand ukraininan quite well so it might be said that it is more less in between russian and polish... or at least that is more similar to polish than polish is to russian

you really never learn enough
lol that's so true
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:26 pm

I would have to agree

Добре, тепер ми можемо говорити про люди тут в спуд файлз
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:48 pm

POLAND_SPUD wrote:I've read beowulf in old english and several other things in it and I have to tell you that english is basically a simplified version of german :) (no offence)


:lol: Oh geeze Beowulf, the original is really far removed from today's english. Most 10th grade American students have to read (or used to anyway) a translated version of that. Most find it a horribly boring read.

Yes old germanic, and simplified to some degree...like, the stupid genderization of words and articles was thankfully pulled out by the roots. Modern English and German aren't very much like each other at all...some common word roots and similar alphabet. It could be said there are many english words with Latin and the romantic language roots as well.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:28 am

I can say "curva mash!" in Polish, I have a Polish co-worker (great guy and in everyone's phone and email he's listed as Mrow!&*/?¿¿?!! because no one can pronounce his name, let alone spell it :D) and that's all he ever says :D
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:37 am

@LikimysCrotchus5 lol 'spudfiles' written in Cyrillic alphabet

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'kurwa mac' is pronounced more like /curva mach/ I ownder why it always that foreigners know mainly swear words in polish :roll:
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:47 am

Yea know took me a long time to write it on a english keyboard but did you get the message?
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:00 am

it means something like -> now we can talk about people here on spudfiles

I assume it can also mean something like 'talk about people without them knowing what we are really talking about' :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:15 am

POLAND_SPUD wrote:'talk about people without them knowing what we are really talking about' :wink:


But that's not really good forum etiquette now is it :p besides, we have Babelfish now that can tell us *exactly* what you're talking about :roll: :D
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