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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:31 pm

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100% alcohol is poison
why is it a poison?? I've personally drunk 95% alcohol and I am still alive... and I know people who do it on a regular basis... does that 5% more make such a big difference ??

Poison doesn't necessarily kill you, it makes you sick.

What happens when you drink more alcohol then your body can handle...you get sick. :)
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:40 pm

lol it's different for slavs... or maybe it's just that practice makes perfect :wink:

sorry for kicking up an outdated topic.. but I was curious about that 100% thing
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:49 pm

Poison doesn't necessarily kill you, it makes you sick.

So beer is also poison? :)



Up to some extent, everything is poison, you just gotta take enough of it.
If you drink alot of coffee, you'll get a heart attack of all the caffeine. If you drink alot of demineralized water (100% water, no minerals or salts) you will also die because your body will pee out all the water along with minerals while not receiving minerals.
Even spuds can kill you...
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:21 pm

psycix wrote:
Poison doesn't necessarily kill you, it makes you sick.

So beer is also poison? :)


If you drink alot of demineralized water (100% water, no minerals or salts) you will also die because your body will pee out all the water along with minerals while not receiving minerals.


There was a big news report about an incident a couple of years ago. It's called water poisoning, water intoxication, hyponatremia. Your body loses its electrolytic balance and you die.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:23 pm

So beer is also poison

It's not the beer that is the poison, it is the alcohol which is poison. That's like saying the apple which is filled with cyanide is the poison, not the cyanide itself.

Have you heard of alcohol poisoning?

Read this toxicology also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_ ... Toxicology

"Up to some extent, everything is poison"
Same as saying everything gives you cancer (well probably not everything).
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:13 am

Also you have to differ between ethanol(your common alcohol) and methanol, a kind of alcohol which can cause anything from blindness to death. Certain alcoholic drinks such as the italian Grappa contain very large armounts of methanol and are therefore even more poisonous than drinks with beer. Home made vodka is also an alcohol which may contain large amounts of methanol. Maybe you have heard of people drinking anti freeze, same thing, i.e. sometimes when drinking certain types of alcohol you are really drinking anti freeze, not a nice thought is it?

Ethanol is also poisonous but in larger doses, if you drink eanoth beer your judjement goes off, you get over confident, first stage of intoxication. This stage is pleasent and is ussually what you aim for but it is also the time to stop. Next you will vomit and will not have proper contol over your movements, now you sould seriously stop, its not fun anymore, it feels like a proper poison now, next step is fainting, too late now to stop, if you are alone then this very dangerous. Next you fall into a coma or die. So really alcohol is pretty mean stuff and dfiantely a poison.
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Unread postAuthor: TurboSuper » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:17 pm

I thought antifreeze was Ethylene Glycol?
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:42 pm

Methanol, also known as methyl alcohol, carbinol, wood alcohol, wood naphtha or wood spirits, is a chemical compound with chemical formula CH3OH (often abbreviated MeOH). It is the simplest alcohol, and is a light, volatile, colourless, flammable, poisonous liquid with a distinctive odor that is somewhat milder and sweeter than ethanol (ethyl alcohol). At room temperature it is a polar liquid and is used as an antifreeze, solvent, fuel, and as a denaturant for ethyl alcohol. It is not very popular for machinery, but it can be found in automotive windshield washer fluid, de-icers, and gasoline additives to name a few.


The above if from wikipedia. Other ingredients are also used but methanol is one of the primary ones! anti freeze is sometimes drunk in poor countries or in countries which are cold to "marm up", Russia being a good example.
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:04 am

"Up to some extent, everything is poison"
Same as saying everything gives you cancer (well probably not everything).

Up to some extent, everything is a projectile!
(Holy book of the spudders, chapter 14, paragraph 3) :)

anti freeze is sometimes drunk in poor countries or in countries which are cold to "marm up", Russia being a good example.

Yep, they even drink stuff like jet fuel.
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:10 am

Holy book of spudders, why does that sound like somehting i would want?
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:47 am

john bunsenburner wrote:Holy book of spudders, why does that sound like somehting i would want?


All in good time young grasshoppa'.... :roll: (sorry, I couldn't resist).. :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:13 pm

I have been called lots, but not a grass hopper, kind of offensive if i think about my main use for them: fishing bait...Any way, what is that book, does it acctually exist?
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:23 pm

No it doesn't exist :)

And by grasshoppa' he means like apprentice.
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:20 pm

john bunsenburner wrote:I have been called lots, but not a grass hopper, kind of offensive if i think about my main use for them: fishing bait...Any way, what is that book, does it acctually exist?


:lol: Sorry john, maybe a little too much American culture in that one. That came from "The Karate Kid" movies. The young learner was called a "grasshopper" by the sage old guy. Only through his enlightenment could he attain....oh anyway...the holy spudbook comments made me think of that... 8)
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:20 pm

starman wrote:
john bunsenburner wrote:I have been called lots, but not a grass hopper, kind of offensive if i think about my main use for them: fishing bait...Any way, what is that book, does it acctually exist?


:lol: Sorry john, maybe a little too much American culture in that one. That came from "The Karate Kid" movies. The young learner was called a "grasshopper" by the sage old guy. Only through his enlightenment could he attain....oh anyway...the holy spudbook comments made me think of that... 8)


It really comes from a older tee vee series called "Kung Fu" starring David Caridean (sp), as the grasshopper. You can probly find it around the internet some where, mabe a google search.

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