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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:06 pm

Because it makes money?

Unless you've got a hundred or two bucks a month to pay for hosting? :P
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Unread postAuthor: rp181 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:32 pm

Thats why i asked about ad tracker units. adsense tells you what each ad brings in. Im fine with it, I just think the look and feel would be better.

@ultimatespudgun:

On your fully completed cannon, you should paint the chamber black. It would look more appealing.
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Unread postAuthor: Fnord » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:06 pm

Wow. I sure stirred up the hive here. Sorry if I caused any problems.

Since I didn't really give any constructive advice the first time around, I'll talk to jagerbond directly if he's still browsing here...

I know there is a commercial market for these things, but in the past what I've seen doing well are the big pneumatic guns. IMO, combustions by their nature are perceived as more of a toy than a piece of equipment, just because they are commonly the ones built by bored teenagers.

If I remember right Joel s. made a good business out of the big pneumatics and valves, even selling them to movie special effect teams and the military.
Maybe in the future you should consider expanding into this realm?

If you want to attract hobbyists as well, try to offer some more basic components. Modded sprinkler valves and stunguns/HVcircuits are a good place to start. I'm sure if you want ideas for products like this you only have to ask the members here.

Also, most paintball enthusiasts I know seem to readily part with large sums of money for easily machined custom parts.

Anyway, thanks for supporting the community!
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Unread postAuthor: TurboSuper » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:33 pm

Man, I was wondering why there wasn't a thread about the new sponsor...turns out I just couldn't find it.

I don't want to say something I'll regret, so I'll just say:
Thank you for your assistance, Mr. Sponsor!
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Unread postAuthor: daxspudder » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:56 pm

jagerbond wrote:Thanks for all the comments... I've built many Home Depot specials and was looking for something really custom. I understand the zen of making a run to HD and putting together something in an afternoon that works well for cheap. I built the first one at a friends machine shop and immediately had people interested, hence the website. The last 6 months was a lot fun designing/refining it and putting it together, probably why we are all here. I designed this to be a performer and have a real military feel.

Honestly the web site can't convey the performance and reliability so I'll be posting some video footage shortly.

To answer some of your questions:
-CNC machining is expensive and these parts are made domestically with tolerances of +/- .003"
-There is nothing like this out there.
-The metering device was engineered from the ground up and is pending a patent.

Mike Bond
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Im somewhere between offended and confused... your site has a disclaimer not to kill with spudguns, but the military has guns for one reason only, TO KILL... and the metering device is from what I can tell something that at least 100 people on this site have built themselves, including me, but when I designed mine instead of going from the ground up, I went from the propane to the gun, cause thats simply how these thing work... no engineering required.... If you would like me to custom machine some parts, PM me, I'm military and have access to several machine shops, machining isnt necesary for my preferred guns, but if you need it, I got it, no 1k$ price tags here...
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:38 pm

Wow, I haven't read this thread up till now, and you guys scare me.
A sponsor is a good thing, even if they sell the spuds themselves for a 1000 bucks each.

If the ad doesn't appeal to you, it's probably not meant for you.


This site draws in a LOT of people who are looking for spudguns.
The sponsor gets a lot of attention this way and he helps to keep the site up.
So all sides benefit from this.

If he were to just post those cannons as a member, you'd all be green with envy.I would!
So stop wining and let the man try and make a few bucks.
You don't just slap together a thing like that.
And it don't come cheap.

The PVC chamber comment does have sense to it.
They would be (even) better with aluminium chambers.I think the intended customers would come to prefer it too, it would make them truely top of the line.
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Unread postAuthor: Carlman » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:34 pm

Gday Mike nice to have you onboard!

I love the offset coax, it gives it a sense of what way is up!

Would you be so kind as to post the cannons on here?

Cheers,

Carl.
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Unread postAuthor: Fnord » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:44 pm

Dax:
Just because it has a military feel, doesn't mean it's designed to kill. Plenty of airsoft guns are based on military weapons.

and the metering device is from what I can tell something that at least 100 people on this site have built themselves, including me, but when I designed mine instead of going from the ground up,


No, that propane meter appears to operate differently than the 2 ball valves type. I believe it uses oring seals. I don't think I've ever seen one like it before, aside from the one sitting on my desk :lol: . (Just a weird coincidence apparently. I built one that uses a pump-action stroke a couple weeks ago, and can only assume they are built the same).
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Unread postAuthor: inonickname » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:46 pm

The guns are very nice, but whoaa pricey..

Btw Jager, how many are you selling (sort of a rate)? And to what audience?

Edit: just looked around..and theres a few nicer cheaper things there..

It's good we have sponsors though, so thanks :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: jonnyboy » Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:21 pm

_Fnord wrote:I don't think I've ever seen one like it before, aside from the one sitting on my desk :lol: . (Just a weird coincidence apparently. I built one that uses a pump-action stroke a couple weeks ago, and can only assume they are built the same).

When I saw that metering system I decided to try and make one as well. The epoxy piston is setting right now. I think you pull back the plunger and it opens a port that allows the gas into the pump. You then pull it forward and the gas goes into the chamber. Well at least that's how mine is planned to operate. Basically like a syringe.
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Unread postAuthor: Fnord » Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:39 pm

Seems likely his could be built the way you described it.
Mine runs under a constant pressure, meaning the pump action is only used to operate a 3-way valve.

I'll make a tutorial for mine after I get my upgraded combustion posted. It was rather cheap to build.
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:05 pm

I have to say i'm with PCGUY, some of you guys are pissing me off as well. All those complaining and hiding behind the words a different opion and such should be taken out back to the wood shed and whipped with a switch or a stick :wink: of some sort!
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Unread postAuthor: Spudtech » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:12 pm

I would like to welcome the new sponsor!
With the products he is manufacturing he could advertise almost anywhere and generate sales.
It doesn't matter if some members here don't buy what he is selling because some visitors to this site will. I am glad that he is sponsoring Spudfiles because someone has to pay to keep the lights on here.

Anyone who has not donated should not be ripping on any sponsor PCGUY chooses.
I know this is a forum and everyone has a right to express their opinion but HAVE SOME RESPECT!
If he was not a sponsor and posted pictures he would have been praised for the work he did.

There are many type of people out there who don't have the knowledge or confidence to build there own and some who just have more money than time so why should they be left out of this great hobby.

We need every person we can get on our side if we want to keep a place for spud guns in this bubble wrap world we all live in.

I have to admit I am a little jealous because I don't have access to a CNC myself yet and I have to machine everything manually. :)

I like the clean professional look of of site. I hope to bring Spudtech up to his level of style when I get some time.
Good Luck Mike! I hope things work out well for you!
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Re: SpudFiles Open For Sponsors

Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:46 pm

... Target viewer group is typically 15-60 year old males.


If you went even older maybe Viagra could advertise too(?) :P :lol: 8)

Sounds awesome!
If someone comes up with say...a design good enough to be patented and marketed ligitamitally and factory produced they could advertise here maybe ???

If so It sounds like time to motivate maybe... 8)
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Unread postAuthor: Velocity » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:04 pm

Just wondering, whatever happened to BCARMS anyways? I understand that people were having significant troubles regarding long delays in their orders.
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