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Unread postAuthor: chenslee » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:37 am

I vote for the third innovative. It sounds like we'll need it. Extending the deadline is not fair to the one person that pulled it off, but I don't think they should get first and second because they were the only one.

I think that the innovative should have been busted up into two categories: Up to 3/4" bore, and over 3/4" bore. That separates the guns from the cannons. I guess it's a little late for that.
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Unread postAuthor: c11man » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:52 am

but if only 1 person entered and we know of one persons cannon that was completly destroyed, how many more do you think could enter? and if you won but only 1 cannon was entered you dont realy know how good your cannon is do you?

@tech, we could extend it a 3 months and i bet you wouldnt make a pvc cannon. cuz you think 4inch and above is dangerous at 100psi. tha plus you have a facilities to make steel cannons.... lucky b@$t%rd
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:21 am

Innovation shouldn't be split by size.

If anything it's cheaper and easier to make a small scale design than a large one and since the whole point is to be trying something different, you don't need to go any larger.

Hence the reason prototypes are generally scaled down versions.


~make a request for late entrants to PM you and see if delaying it will be worthwhile (for either category?)

Would be nice for the whole set to be unveiled at the same time instead of splitting them into two releases.
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:26 am

Yeah i agree to the others i wanna see what y'all came upw ith. I say we do the following:

We have more contests(one a year with prizes, and lots without, how about a semi auto contest next up?) and keep going with this one.

I'd be in if my dog wouldn't of had cancer and got his spleen removed, But as he did, I don't have any of my materials or tools besides a meter worth of Nylon and a few pistons.

I should make a shopping list someday...

Alright lets see em!


Good luck to all may the best of you win!
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Unread postAuthor: chenslee » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:12 am

I love my animals too, but a dog lives for a handful of years GLORY IS FOREVER.

I'm disappointed you traded a spleen surgery for ballistic excellence.
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:31 am

I simply prefer to spend my dog's last few months with him than with spudding, but i will continue, just EVEN slower.

I have been here for over a year, making close to 1300posts, give it another few weeks and i should of posted a few cannons, depends which one of my two babes I shall be the maker of first.

*goes back to listening to music and typing away on essays which take less than a fourth of the time they should take to write and are still five hundred or so wrods longer than everyone else's*
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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:50 am

c11man wrote:@tech, we could extend it a 3 months and i bet you wouldnt make a pvc cannon. cuz you think 4inch and above is dangerous at 100psi. tha plus you have a facilities to make steel cannons.... lucky b@$t%rd


I think you missed my earlier post on how to get 500 PSI in PVC.. If I had 6 months to a year, I may play with a PVC penetration machine just for the challenge of it. It would be a high budget item with stacked tracking regulators to properly inflate each layer on the onion and a source of 500 PSI air.

A sabot on an iron rod 1.25 inch in diameter 72 inches long would be the projectile using a 4 inch barrel. At 500 PSI, the accelerating force would be in the neighborhood of 3 tons.

After a short period of acceleration, it should go through a few sheets of plywood like butter. Design goal would be exceeding 600 FPS.

It is true it would be dangerous. It would require remote charging and operation. Maybe next year. I just don't have the time and budget this year.

In the meantime, I'll plug away on my junkyard wars cannon using mostly free parts and other scrap heap supplies. Ya gotta love free obsolete propane tanks. :D Even my torch was a second hand bargain. Buy used. Recycle reuse.
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Unread postAuthor: jeepkahn » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:53 am

Technician1002 wrote:
c11man wrote:@tech, we could extend it a 3 months and i bet you wouldnt make a pvc cannon. cuz you think 4inch and above is dangerous at 100psi. tha plus you have a facilities to make steel cannons.... lucky b@$t%rd


I think you missed my earlier post on how to get 500 PSI in PVC.. If I had 6 months to a year, I may play with a PVC penetration machine just for the challenge of it. It would be a high budget item with stacked tracking regulators to properly inflate each layer on the onion and a source of 500 PSI air.



A link to this please...
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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:10 pm

jeepkahn wrote:
A link to this please...


Spoon.. This thread.. http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/summer-2009-contest-discussion-t18464,start,30.html

Example given is for a 2.5 inch chamber. It can be scaled for 4 inch, but the cost goes up fast.

Ensuring each layer is within the pressure limit adds to the cost with each layer having a pop off valve and stacked tracking regulator. Plumbing a valve for this is classified. :D Don't ask. I may use it later. Oh and the disclaimer.. This is very dangerous.
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Unread postAuthor: c11man » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:59 pm

oh i did miss that, i still like how my gun looks......
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:17 pm

How disappointing to see that there were so few entries. But I can't blame anyone, as I didn't participate myself either.
I'd love to enter the innovation contest though... in a few months...
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Unread postAuthor: ramses » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:53 pm

What about innovative design guns with multiple bores? Please don't split it.
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:23 pm

Time to BuMP this!!!

It's exciting!!!

Anyway,
ramses wrote:What about innovative design guns with multiple bores? Please don't split it.


There is an innovative catagory IIRC.
Personally I'd have done a large burst-disc with revoling chambers and single barrel,
OR a 1 gallon "Fantastic" detergent bottle with atleast 12 "triggered burst-discs, an electronic trigger to use solenoids to press each shrader trigger or all simultaneously. With maybe arrows for ammo.(multiple bores design) 8)

On my previous announcement:
Congratulations to you, and all the best. I hope however that we will still see you on the forums

Of course, spudder for life and the world's greatest spud forum!...of course.
You should still hold out a little hope...my son was supposed to be a girl too...according to ultrasounds no less.

Congratulations Thunder! Enjoy your sleep while you still can!!


Thankyou Starman!!!, I was wondering about that,
but actually prefer a girl at this point since I've been calling the poor baby "She/Her" all this time! Besides "she" can do girl stuff with my lady, be a daddy's girl and my wife already told me she "knew i wanted a boy and will try again soon" (!!!) :shock: :D

@THUNDERLORD
congrats... just an advice for you... I suggest Cesarean section.. for uhmm practical reasons if you know what I mean ...


Yeah, I prefer natural. I had an abdominal wound a while back (few years) and it still hurts sometimes!
When I went to get the staples out at first I couldn't figure why there were all these women with newborns in waiting room...then realised my "abdominal surgeon" who patched me up worked "cesareans" mostly! :shock: :lol:
Besides I plan on having moar so it wouldn't be practical.

Perhaps one day animals will carry and deliver human fetuses for our women , I will buy thousands of cows and create a (spud type) nation...
Or just build a sp*rm preservetive and add my sa*ce to tampons or condoms... :P :P :P (whacked out sci-fi idea!!!) :lol:

As for extending deadline, late enrties can wait till next year IMO...I'll be there if there's one next year (with my BFB design that'll hopefully get posted before then)!!!
Thanks. 8)
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:52 pm

THUNDERLORD wrote:Perhaps one day animals will carry and deliver human fetuses for our women , I will buy thousands of cows and create a (spud type) nation...

Please don't. I'm not sure the world could cope with that many people who have a high chance of following in your... particular and unique idiom.

Anyway, I've already had to sign a legally binding agreement that I will be limited on the number of my children, for fear my offspring will initiate a doomsday event of some sort, so I don't see why you should get away with it.

As for extending deadline, late entries can wait till next year IMO...I'll be there if there's one next year.

I have to agree, personally. I can't see that with such a low turnout so far that we'd actually get enough extra entries to really turn it into any kind of competition, and it gives some more options in the apparently busy innovation category.

Last time I saw a contest deadline extended, it yielded a sum total of one extra entry - which was actually from me, so the poor sod who had found themselves the only entry in their category didn't have to feel like they'd only won because no-one else could be bothered.
The other guy still won - I could pretend that it was because my entry was horrifically rushed, but I won't, because I believe his work was brilliant.
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Unread postAuthor: twizi » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:00 pm

i would just keep as normal
keep as planned
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