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Question about "Etiquette" and "Double Postin

Unread postAuthor: Mountain Storm » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:50 am

Hi all. I'm new to this forum, but I have been active on other Forums since 2005.

My question here is: why can't a member update a thread by adding a new post without that being considered a breach of etiquette?

If the new post is adding content to a thread that is more than 24 hours old it seems to me that would be acceptable.

If the only option is to edit the last post, the issue I see with that is that the thread stays buried. A new post would bring the thread back up where someone might actually notice the new content.

Here's my reasoning: why would anyone bother adding new content if no one will see it?

Or does editing and old post bump that up?

An explanation of this rule would be helpful to me.
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Re: Question about "Etiquette" and "Double Po

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:52 am

Mountain Storm wrote:Here's my reasoning: why would anyone bother adding new content if no one will see it?

Or does editing and old post bump that up?


Editing a post doesn't bump it up, but I see nothing wrong with adding a new post if something new has been developed, in the sense there have been many of my threads where an idea was revisited and rather than making a new thread, I added a post to the old thread and I never got any flak for that.

As long as it's not a recent thread I see no reason why it should be considered as post count whoring (brave words from the forum's most prolific poster but anyway :roll:)

What we tried to avoid is people bumping up old threads when nothing new has been added.
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Re: Question about "Etiquette" and "Double Po

Unread postAuthor: potatoflinger » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:31 am

Mountain Storm wrote:If the new post is adding content to a thread that is more than 24 hours old it seems to me that would be acceptable.

There is nothing wrong with double posting if the new post is adding new content to the thread and there is a few hours or so between the posts. The problem is when people make a post, then right after they click "submit" they think of something else they wanted to say, and rather than editing their last post, they create a new one.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:12 am

Something that I have considered doing to threads that only me and a few other members read, like a while ago when no one read the hybrid showcase is to send another member a PM if they can bump it for you with a question or something.

Ofcourse, no reason to do this on your first double post of the thread but after a while you have 7-8 double or even tripple posts if you are working on a project.

I have never done this but I will if I ever start building cannons again. What I have done to now is just to PM a moderator and ask him to remove double posts (merge them) after the thread has got new life.
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Unread postAuthor: qwerty » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:38 am

If they put a reason and give tips/constructive criticism i think kicking up older topics is not that bad but just saying
"cool gun man" is not realy neccassery. Also, make sure the person that you are talking to is still an active member. There is no point in replying if that person will probably never read it.
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Unread postAuthor: Mountain Storm » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:34 pm

Thanks for the insight guys. When I do build logs on other forums I usually update the log with posts regardless of replies. But I don't want to be a PITA post whore...that's Jack's job.

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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:52 pm

When I PM members about double posting usually I let them know there are certain situations where a double post is fine. Most of the time it is in a Showcase thread when the author of the topic is adding new information/pictures/videos to the topic. It is acceptable to do it in any thread providing you are adding new relevant information with a few hours between your posts.

The reason that isn't in the rules is because it just confuses people even more, it can be quite difficult to explain what double posting is to someone who's never heard the term.
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:42 pm

that's Jack's job.


Muhahahaha!!

You seem to have enough sense..( still laughing) ..so you'll know what to do...













Yes...still laughing...
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:03 pm

I resemble that remark :P :D
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Unread postAuthor: Selador » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:09 pm

Question:

Does everyone here, upon coming back to the forum... Go back to all the threads that you have already read, and read through them again. Just in case someone has edited a post after you read it. ???

No ? Then how, with a seemingly no-tolerance policy of having to edit a post rather than posting new... Can you be sure that you haven't missed something important ?

The policy seems to me, to be not so well thought out.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:08 am

Oxbreath wrote:Then how, with a seemingly no-tolerance policy of having to edit a post rather than posting new... Can you be sure that you haven't missed something important ?


Read through the replies, there isn't a "no-tolerance" policy, it is more than acceptable to double post if someone is adding anything significant to the thread and the posts are more than a few hours apart ;)
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:22 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Read through the replies, there isn't a "no-tolerance" policy, it is more than acceptable to double post if someone is adding anything significant to the thread and the posts are more than a few hours apart ;)

Nail. Head. You hit it.


Ox, you will find I will let many double posts slide, hell even triple posts, if they have reason. Don't feel like "I still have to wait another 47 minutes and 32 seconds before I can make a legit double post, assuming my post includes the required amount of information which is new and relevant to the topic". If you think it is justified, post it. If I see that it was a poor example of a legit double post, I will delete it and maybe merge it with the post above if I'm in a good mood.

I much prefer this method over seeing a topic with the same member making 6 posts because he's too lazy to quote each individual member in a single reply or a member constantly updating his thread with "oh I forgot about...".

Can you be sure that you haven't missed something important

Speaking of missing something important...look three posts above yours :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: Selador » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:39 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Read through the replies, there isn't a "no-tolerance" policy, it is more than acceptable to double post if someone is adding anything significant to the thread and the posts are more than a few hours apart ;)


You are obviously correct.

I guess it just -seems- there is a no-tolerance policy when you see TWTTTS jumping on that subject, maybe 20 times in about a hundred threads that you have read in a few days. LOL

I have literally spent all day long reading threads here, for three of the last four days.

That, of course, means I have read a lot of the most 'favorite' threads. As well as following an awful lot of links to "random cannons", and thereby finding myself reading really old threads.

(I'm retireded. Heavy slur on the "i". LOL) ;)

And it does seem that the subject of double posting comes up in nearly 20 percent of the threads. (Who would have thunk it would be such an important subject to so many people ?)

The majority of those seem to come from random members. Scolding someone else for double posting.

The Mods and Admins don't seem to rank among the TWTTTS. I get the feeling they have more common sense about such things. I do appreciate that.

I guess the bottom line for me, in this thread is that my opinion was not needed, and I probably should have just kept my opinion to myself. LOL

I like the people here. I like the PTB. And I like the way this forum 'flows'.

I hope to make many friends, and no real enemies.

MrCrowley wrote:Ox, you will find I will let many double posts slide, hell even triple posts, if they have reason. Don't feel like "I still have to wait another 47 minutes and 32 seconds before I can make a legit double post, assuming my post includes the required amount of information which is new and relevant to the topic". If you think it is justified, post it. If I see that it was a poor example of a legit double post, I will delete it and maybe merge it with the post above if I'm in a good mood.

I much prefer this method over seeing a topic with the same member making 6 posts because he's too lazy to quote each individual member in a single reply or a member constantly updating his thread with "oh I forgot about...".


Well, there you go.

Common sense.

And like I said, I appreciate it.

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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:45 am

The majority of those seem to come from random members. Scolding someone else for double posting.

Us Moderators do try to keep it off the forum as much as possible. In general we like to handle everything via the PM service, no need to clutter topics by telling someone the rules.

I probably should have just kept my opinion to myself. LOL

There's a thread somewhere, sticky I think, where you can express your concerns about rules and the moderators ("how are the mods doing?" is the topic title I think). We value any members opinion and we don't think members shouldn't have the right to express their opinions on certain matters. So, don't worry about it. If you have a query, concern or complaint you can PM a moderator, post in the above mentioned topic or maybe even create a new topic in Website discussion.

By the way, what does TWTTTS mean? :P

edit: Or you can express your opinions on the rules in the original "Posting Etiquette" topic, which is a Global Announcement and will be at the top of every forum section page.
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Unread postAuthor: Selador » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:50 am

MrCrowley wrote:By the way, what does TWTTTS mean? :P


Those Who Take Themselves Too Seriously.

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