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Pengun piston

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:06 am
by Gun Freak
I want to use a pencil eraser for a piston because it fits tightly but I don't know if it will hold up to 400 psi without the barrel becoming a cookie cutter. I couldn't find any rubber stopper that would fit well at the hardware store either, so what do you think?
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:27 am
by Crna Legija
you could add something to the barrel to increase its wall thickness but a rubber would still get cut up bad or put the seal on the barrel just have a flat hard piston

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:34 am
by Gun Freak
Ok, I might find something to put around the barrel, but my barrel is to wide to integrate a seal onto it and have a hard piston. There wouldn't be a lot of room around it for the air to flow.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:57 pm
by saefroch
At 400psi, with multiple uses, your piston will probably get torn apart. Erasers, after all, are designed to do so. :wink:

I'd model the forces on the eraser with some weights and see what happens.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:12 pm
by Gun Freak
I already did, but without weights. Just the force of my hands got a circle etched into the front of the eraser. I'm thinking cast epoxy now with some neoprene on it but will the rubber stay on if I just epoxy it?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:24 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Heck no, is wont last 200 psi, I already have a thread about this. What i did was use a vinyal keychain and use the chamber to cut the piston out, like JSR.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:45 pm
by Gun Freak
I sharpened a piece of the chamber and punched some neoprene out then put it at the bottom of a section of the chamber pipe. Then I lubed it and put in the epoxy. It is curing right now so I'll take it out tomorrow. Should the epoxy be good enough to hold on the neoprene? It's Loctite 5 minute epoxy.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:54 pm
by clemsonguy1125
So you cast an epoxy piston, seems like way more work than nessacery, sudt use a keychain thats like a 1/4 inch thick

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:08 pm
by Gun Freak
I have another pengun on the way. I'll try a solid rubber piston in that one.
Pick the first one or the second one:
The schrader can be hidden or not. Either way, the front part of the pen would need to be removed in order to fire it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:04 am
by Gun Freak
I took the piston out of the mold today, it was tough but it came out. The rubber on the face came off. The epoxy was not enough to keep it on. A solid rubber piston is in order.
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:41 pm
by ilovefire
what i did for my pen guns is i used contact adhesive to stick it to the piston and it seems to stay alright

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:06 pm
by Crna Legija
use super glue or rubber cement that you get in tire repair kits to hold rubber down, epoxy just wont stick to rubber

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:43 am
by Gun Freak
Are you sure super glue will hold it cause it's not servicable.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:06 pm
by ilovefire
test it with a scrap bit of rubber and some wast epoxy and see if you think it is strong enough

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