Steel head, nylon body, cheap rounds, with video/damage pix
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:57 pm
by jhalek90
edit:(the strange lighting makes the heads of the bullets look tilted, this is not the case)
Video:
[youtube][/youtube] shot at 100 psi, with a 0.5'' porting coaxial piston valved cannon.
chamber to barrel ratio is setup for minimal firing sound.
Similar to other compound rounds offered by our sponsors.
Not as good, but cheap.
This was made by heating a round headed bolt, with a lighter, and forcing it into a nylon spacer.
The Center of gravity, can be changed by changing the length of the bolt.
all estimates for a .50 cal round
Cost: about $0.30 (USD)
Build time: about 45 seconds to heat the bolt.
Durability: bolt has not fallen out, after 10-12 shots into steel plate.
(shot taken with at 100psi .50'' porting coaxial cannon I am working on.)
DAMAGE PICS
can:
1/2' press board shelf:
Steel baking pan:
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:00 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Wouldn't it be neater to just drill a hole and screw the bolt in? Also, does the bolt head fit exactly in the barrel? If so, doesn't the fact that the nylon part is smaller diameter mean that its unstable in the barrel and therefore inaccurate?
Oh, and damage pics. what happened to the steel plate
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:57 am
by jhalek90
there is a hole in the nylon spacer, drilling and tapping would work. But i do find this heat method to work just fine.
the difference between the bolt head diameter and the nylon spacer diameter is less that the photos make it look.
(about 2 thicknesses of electrical tape)
Bolt head is VERY close to barrel ID
Pics and video coming in new cannon thread in the next few days.
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:42 am
by LovableAirGuns
wow that is a very simple damaging ammunition cant wait for damge videos and pics.
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:41 am
by POLAND_SPUD
How straight does it fly?
POLAND_SPUD wrote:
Anything is possible with the proper 3-way valve.
Could someone PM PcGuy to put that on the main page ?
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:16 pm
by jhalek90
Every shot hit the target with the head of the bolt.
When shooting into an old fridge radiator assemble, the bullet seems to impact near perfectly straight.
Ranges tested are apox: 15-45 feet.
More long range test will be done in the next few days.
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:16 pm
by the unit
Where did you get the nylon spacers?
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:17 pm
by jhalek90
Ace hardware right next to the bolts.
Simply ask a hardware store associate were they are located.
POLAND_SPUD wrote:How straight does it fly?
POLAND_SPUD wrote:
Anything is possible with the proper 3-way valve.
Could someone PM PcGuy to put that on the main page ?
I don't think those words ever came out of your mouth EXACTLY like that... But it sounds like something you would have said. Haha
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:25 pm
by Crna Legija
hear in aus you can get them at trailer shops, i was thinking of using them as cartridges for a semi.
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:40 pm
by jhalek90
Damage pics are here:
Pop can:
1/2' press board shelf:
Steel baking pan:
The round then withstood 2 shots into thick (1/2'') steel plate until...
Destroyed round:
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:45 pm
by shardbearer
Really nice. I have to try these now. Can we get a video?
It might be easier to use standard hex bolts cause they dont have that square under the head, which must have been hard to push in to the nylon, and it probably causes a lot of stress. But hex bolts would be less aerodynamic.
Dont your hands burn from touching hot metal?
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:56 pm
by jhalek90
shardbearer wrote:
Dont your hands burn from touching hot metal?
I used pliers..?!?!
also, video soon.
EDIT:
[youtube][/youtube]
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:05 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Not bad at just 100 psi - will you be ramping it up?
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:48 am
by jhalek90
yes.
i plan on running 150 psi. Lowest rated part on the gun is rated for 360psi
But, I am going to try using these rounds in a 650psi QEV cannon to see what they can do.