Happy Independence Day 4th of July

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:47 pm

Pfft - 12 grams whistle? How about roughly a quarter pound:

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Yeah, that was what, maybe 5 years ago? Nothing interesting this year, just thought I'd dig up some past memories :)

(That's a friend in the video, not me)
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:28 am

Nice bang!

But hey, anyone can make a nice bang with that amount! I like to create the biggest bang possible with a relatively small amount of powder.
Dam how long did this one last? Loud?
I haven't light it yet, because the glue isn't entirely dry. It will be lighted in a month or so.
I'll try to get a nice vid up.
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:43 am

I scared my friend's mom when I started mixing up 8g of flash. My friend proceeded to spill roughly a gram on her flowers. It was quite loud and bright, even poorly confined.

Now that I have a mill, I can just flycut magnesium to get powder, rather than file it.
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:17 pm

Pop quiz: How many Americans here actually know the meaning of said holiday without having to look it up?
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:49 pm

Hubb wrote:Pop quiz: How many Americans here actually know the meaning of said holiday without having to look it up?
Celebrate the day our nation's independence was made public, which was (IIRC) two days after the declaration was actually signed.

(also, blow sh*t up)
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:17 pm

I would have said the day the declaration was signed, but pretty much that's the idea haha. I know it was 1776 though :D
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Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:01 pm

Hubb wrote:Pop quiz: How many Americans here actually know the meaning of said holiday without having to look it up?
The meaning? To celebrate independence from the Brits.

Just wondering, has anyone seen a D.C. licence plate? Some have an interesting saying at the bottom... wondering if anyone here knows what it is.
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:20 am

Good job fellas. Unfortunately;

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Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:22 am

I didn't make it past 0:38 on the video :shock:
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:56 am

Much of the rights cited in the declaration were credited to God. I think it is sad that the basis of our inalienable rights is shoved aside. The pledge is optional, and even the "In God we trust" is diminished on our currency. The principals for the declaration are pretty much destroyed and the government is rapidly removing the Independence we fought for.

We may have to do it all over again sometime in the future much like Egypt.


Sorry for the church lesson, but it is a big part of our history.
Many early court decisions were based on the bible. Now it is a sin to mention the book in the courtroom as an authority on a decision. This loss of the morals is why abortion for example is even an issue. The whole thing is based on what age after conception it should become illegal to kill your kid. Now without the moral basis, such things as gay marriage are an issue. We've changed a lot in 200 years. :(

There are a lot of people who don't want the reason behind the 4th really known or highly edited down to fit in a tweet on twitter.

It was not a one line tweet declaration. Read it sometime.

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyameric ... /text.html

First paragraph includes the reference to the authority.
and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them
The first sentence of the second paragraph makes a direct reference to the creator of man.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
God bless America!
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:41 pm

Technician1002 wrote:Now without the moral basis, such things as gay marriage are an issue. We've changed a lot in 200 years. :(
Maybe that's a good thing. We shouldn't just turn up our collective nose at issues that are morally murky.
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:34 pm

Ok, the 4th is the date the declaration was drafted, as far as I know. It wasn't signed until... mid August? I can't remember without looking it up.

Tech, like it or not the old freedoms are gone. Really the only rights you have are the ones you're willing to die defending. There are no "given" rights whether given by government or [god-of-your-choice]. Look what happened to the Japanese living in America after pearl harbor was bombed.

Although I've never been to a court hearing I kinda assumed the bible and God are still included in the opening "ceremony". Also Claiming the bible's teachings as a defence would potentially justify you in killing a bunch of kids with wild bears because they made fun of your bald head. :D So yeah, it may be a bit dated in some areas.

*Runs away from imminent holywar*
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:21 pm

Church bells rang out over Philadelphia on July 4, 1776.... signalling that the Declaration of Independence was approved and officially adopted by the Continental Congress.
Sorry no holy war here. Freedom of speech, I'll defend your right to say what you believe. No problem, no holy war. On the same token, I would like the right to post my view.

Now that the holy war is over, back to independence history. The 4th was the date it was adopted by congress.
Church bells rang out over Philadelphia on July 4, 1776.... signalling that the Declaration of Independence was approved and officially adopted by the Continental Congress.
Link is here.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:22 pm

Well the point of the question was that one doesn't look it up, so we can see how many people actually know.
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