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PVC Rocket Engine Powered Dragster

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:35 am
by DR
This "dragster", was fabricated with a 30" length of 2" SCH40 PVC pipe. The nose is a 2" Cap and the engine is held in place with a short length of 1" SCH40 PVC pipe, using a 2" x 1" Reducer in the rear.

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Power is delivered by a single Estes rocket engine (E9-P). These type of engines produces a maximum thrust of 5.6 lbs. , with a thrust duration of 2.8 seconds.

The rear fin is more for looks, than function. It was fabricated out of a sheet of 1/8" plastic. The wheels are 100mm (4" diameter") Scooter wheels, with abec-5 bearings. The axles are simply a length of 5/16" allthread.

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The axle struts were made out of solid rod, with 3/8" I.D. Bushings welded to the ends. - They also, are more for aesthetics than a necessity. The two of them together, weigh close to a pound, which I'm sure drastically reduces the acceleration of the dragster.

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<div align="center"><a href="">Short Video of first Test-Run</a></div>

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:41 am
by starman
Really fine work DR. Looks really speedy. Does it remain stable during a full run...ie. not crash?

Did you have some motivation like a competition of some sort to pump this puppy out?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:08 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Shame about the round nose :roll: :D

No seriously, nicely done there DR - have you tried it out yet? If so, some sort of video would be appreciated :) Also - since you're American and all what - what, just one rocket?

Image

:D

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:21 am
by DR
Did a little research about nose-cones for rockets and found out that a round nose is more efficient on vehicles are subsonic. Also, pointy noses do not fair well, when smacking into a curb!

Edited my post and included a short Test-Run video.

Future plans are for shortening the vehicle length, adding new lightweight axle struts, and running a D12-0 Booster engine, which will ignite the E9-P engine.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:50 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
No dry lake beds in your are then :)

Why not keep the length but cut down on body diameter? Or does the rocket engine diameter not allow this?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:34 am
by TurboSuper
Is it really lit by a fuse?

Old school 8)

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:41 am
by JDP12
Wow that's slick DR, nice job

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:19 am
by mark.f
There's an easy pyrotechnic way to ignite more than one rocket engine at a time, but I can't talk about it and you probably already know it.

Unless you have a license for larger engines?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:05 pm
by starman
The video answered my question about stability over the full run. Any even slight yaw in the placement or thrust hole of the engine could cause directional problems.

Also it's possible that the fin isn't as effective as it could be, being somewhat forward of the rear wheels, it's going to tend to steer the car rather than straighten it. I believe a placement slightly behind the rear wheels will be more effective.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:58 pm
by jimmy101
markfh11q wrote:There's an easy pyrotechnic way to ignite more than one rocket engine at a time, but I can't talk about it and you probably already know it.

Unless you have a license for larger engines?
Why can't you talk about it? Standard Estes igniters can be used for multiple engines, just wire'm in parrallel and power with a 12V gel battery.

Or, cheaper yet, get a couple hundred 1/8 watt 10 Ohm resistors for $10 and use them in place of the Estes ignitors.

BTW, looks good DR. I suspect the shape of the nose is darn near perfect for this application.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:05 pm
by mark.f
I meant the dirty pyrotechnic "meal pan" way of igniting multiple engines at once. Cheap, simple, and somewhat effective if done correctly.

There was some girl on the Discovery channel a few years ago who managed to launch around 50 (I think) D engines completely using the method.

But the electronic igniters work good as well.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:29 pm
by jitup
I like it, but befor I got into this hobby I endulged a little in model rocketry (my dad has a friend that works at NASA)
The Estes engines are ok, but you could do much better if you make your own. I probably cannot discuss this on this form so PM me your email me your email address and I will email you the formula I found to work best.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:38 pm
by Brian the brain
Very clean DR! Good to see you still got the skills and haven't quit the PVC game.


BTW I don't have a pointy nose myself, and that is probably why I can't run supersonic... :D

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:32 pm
by MrCrowley
Cool stuff, looks really nice. I'm just waiting for the part where you say 'screw this!' and launch it out of a cannon :wink:

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:23 pm
by DR
If this particular topic is against the spudfiles forum rules, (even it's sans discussion about rocket design and fabrication), please let me know...
No it's fine. It's a commerical rocket motor and even if it wasn't, you're not shooting it out of a cannon :)

How in the hell, did someone post a reply... under MY screenname??? and was it mark11?

Edit#2:

Oh, duh! - Guess someone deleted my entire last post. Ah, well! :cry: