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semi-valveless design

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:48 pm
by FishBoy
this is just a theory that's been floating around in my head for a while. A valve on th end of the barrel is opened and the unrestricted air flow fires the projectile.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:50 pm
by Ragnarok
Unfortunately flawed.

Not only will it's power be limited (because for a considerable time, there will be pressure on both sides of the projectile, resulting in lower net force) but if the ball valve isn't opened very sharpish and cleanly, the projectile is just going to smash into it.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:52 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Ragnarok wrote:if the ball valve isn't opened very sharpish and cleanly, the projectile is just going to smash into it.
...et voila, from semi-valveless to fully valveless :D yay!

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:08 pm
by FishBoy
could a spring loaded ball valve fix this?

edit- &/or a longer barrel (& proprtionately larger chamber)

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:12 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
It will be worse than if you put the ball valve between the barrel in the chamber, unfortunately the concept is fundamentally flawed.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:15 pm
by jonnyboy
How is this different then having the ball valve before the barrel?

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:10 pm
by jook13
because you start out with pressure on both sides of the projectile. I just cant imagine it not slowing the ammo down a bit.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:36 pm
by Atlantis
Already suggested this idea, ya gotta remember that Ball Valves have a smaller inner diameter as well. The idea works, it's just not useful.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:40 pm
by Lentamentalisk
plus, I would imagine it would be nearly impossible to pressureize it with out the projectile traveling at least half of the barrel length, due to the slight pressure buildup behind it...

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:15 am
by psycix
This should be possible in some way. But then instead I would use a burst disk, which could also be placed behind the projectile but then it wont be a semi-valveless again.