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90 degree diaphragm?
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:46 pm
by noname
Anyone ever know of anyone building a 90 degree diaphragm cannon? In the diagram I made I know it doesn't show the whole thing but there would be a stock with a 1/2" or 3/4" hose going to a sprinkler at the back or something.
Why? You ask. Because varying from the regular old stuff is fun and sometimes works better.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:40 pm
by singularity
well i dout that it would perform better than a normal diaphram becuase of the curves but it should work, cant see why it wouldn't. havent seen anyone else do this though, but it would be an easy wat to add a stock to a coaixl.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:08 pm
by frankrede
How does a coax work? Piston or diaphram.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:58 am
by CS
<a href="
http://www.spudfiles.com/spud_wiki/inde ... xial">This will clear things up.
Damb lazy people...</a>
In short, the term 'coaxial' only denotes the configuration of a cannon, not the type of valve being used.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:40 am
by Benny
Really dangerous idea man, the diaphram could snap the barrel.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:01 am
by MrCrowley
frankrede wrote:How does a coax work? Piston or diaphram.
you can use both
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:16 am
by rna_duelers
I think boogie man has a pneumatic using this type of valve and i have seen cut outs of this type of cannon on this site b4 in the how to section,it was a while ago but.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:01 pm
by noname
Benny, how would it snap the barrel?
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:13 pm
by Brian the brain
Helloooowwww
This is the how your regular sprinkler valve works...
Ofcourse it will work, as long as you support the barrel...
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:33 pm
by PVC Arsenal 17
I thought of this ages ago. I wasn't the first one either. Problem is, the elbow inside the tee will restrict flow. And it will one big PITA to make with no special results.
My thread:
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtop ... 197㝵
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:51 pm
by drac
The pressure that the diaphragm exerts on the elbow could casue it to snap, since the pressure is pushing up, instead of away like a normal coax. I don't see a problem with it though.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:06 pm
by SpudStuff
Its a co-axial sprinkler valve...
I choose to post this less then a minute later:
-Congrats on your mod-ship drac!!
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:04 pm
by drac
Thanks, and no, it's not a coax sprinkler valve.. The seat on a sprinkler valve is much more stable, and solid. They're similar in function, but not in construction.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:45 pm
by CS
Ive also been interested in designing a valve that would allow a cannon to be inline, while not having a 90 degree bend like on previous T piston valves. I wasnt thinking coaxial specifically since you can just position the piston/ diaphragm on the end of the barrel, but more so for 'inline' cannons. AKA so every cannon using a T piston valve doesnt require that it be over-under.
I recall seeing someone on SpudTech attempt at such a valve were the sealing faces were positioned both at 45 degrees so the chamber and barrel ports would be inline. But as I recall the attempt failed leaking. I would like to see more discussion pertaining to something along the lines of it, since I cant come up with anything that would, perform well - fairly simple - ability to disassemble.
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:24 pm
by noname
I'm probably just going to go with my mini piston design then.