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The [Insert safety concern here] Cannon.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:02 pm
by Intel Xeon
Ok, so this was my first cannon attempt and I say that the attempt kinda succeeded. Modded Rainbird Sprinkler Valve, 2"ID 25" sch40 chamber. Interchangeable 2"ID 10" long and 3/4"ID 4' long sch 40 barrels.
Working pressure of 75 psi with "t3h b!k3 pu^^p uv d00m"
Taht ish lyke teh nuubs kanon!

My cannon is a wannabe gangsta'

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:10 am
by frankrede
that gun has DWV fittings not made for pressure but it should be fine at under 75psi.
But from what I see you have potential in this hobby.
I can tell you did (some) of your homework.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:58 am
by schmanman
nice job on your first. really short 2" barrel though, go longer.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:05 am
by Intel Xeon
everything is actually sch40 except for the 2" barrel couplings (which actually are just sleeved over the pipe,I removed the lip inside) and the coupling that attaches the cleanout. So, if anything fails, the only problem will be the cleanout shooting back, correct?
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:01 am
by imablackskater
nice first you should be alright at 75. by the way what do you shoot
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:43 pm
by mark.f
Nice "barrel flex-preventative system". 8)
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:00 pm
by Pete Zaria
Intel Xeon wrote:everything is actually sch40 except for the 2" barrel couplings (which actually are just sleeved over the pipe,I removed the lip inside) and the coupling that attaches the cleanout. So, if anything fails, the only problem will be the cleanout shooting back, correct?
Sch40 is a wall thickness measurement - NOT a pressure rating.
"NSF-PW (xxx PSI)" is a pressure rating.
Three different types of SCH40 pipe the exact same size can have 3 very different pressure ratings.
2" SCH40 DWV PVC (what you have) is made for Drain/Waste/Vent and is not made for pressure. Even worse, if it does fail, it has the potential to fail in a very violent manner, throwing lots of little pieces of PVC shrapnel around.
2" SCH40 NSF-PW PVC (what you really should use....) is made for pressure and has a rating stamped on the side of it. It's much safer. If you dropped it while it was pressurized, it could still shrapnel, but it's much less likely than with DWV pipe.
2" SCH40 DWV cellular-core ABS (perfect for combustions) is made of black ABS plastic, which is very "streachy" and "giving" compared to PVC. Smack a piece with a hammer and you'll see what I mean. If ABS fails, it "rips" open cleanly without sending shrapnel everywhere, making it a perfect choice for combustion guns - but a very bad choice for pneumatics (like yours) due to its lack of a pressure rating.
There are even more types of SCH40 pipe (CPVC, metals, etc....) but you get the idea.
Yes, if your gun fails, the most likely scenario is that the back cap would blast off. If you dropped it while it was pressurized, you'd probably be f**ked.
Keep it under 75 or 80psi, as frankrede said. I've tested ABS DWV pipe to 125psi (remotely) and it didn't fail, so odds are yours won't either - but you're playing odds. I would definitely keep the pressure relatively low. And be damn sure not to drop it while it's pressurized.
Other than the use of some DWV parts, great job. Nice design, nice craftsmanship, nice valve setup. I hope you stick around and post a few more guns.
Peace,
Pete Zaria.
PS - I <3 AMD

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:04 pm
by Intel Xeon
>_< yeah i meant Pressure rated. All the pipe and fittings have a pressure rating with nsf-pw. just the end cap is connected with dwv.
I was a forum lurker for quite a while and studied up for my first cannon
EDIT: I shoot crayola poster markers (very nice seal) potaotes, large grapes, cherry tomatoes, and I mold ice bullets occasionally. Pretty much anything that fits in the barrel. Oh, and I found these slightly oversized marbles at A.C Moore and they fit perfectly in sch40 3/4"
For the 2" I use potatoes (obviously)1.5" pvc 'Rockets', small onions, and once i shot like 500 steel bbs with a paper cup for wadding.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:08 pm
by Pete Zaria
Damn, I just wasted 5 minutes of my life

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No worries.
If the only DWV part on it is the back cap and coupling - saw the f***er off. It's obviously the weakest link in your gun, so put an NSF-PW end cap on there. Or at least a pressure rated female adapter and end plug.
Good stuff

Hope to see a few more guns from you.
BTW - what Xeon do you have, and do you overclock?
Peace,
Pete Zaria.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:43 pm
by Intel Xeon
It's just my online handle. My laptop has 2.6ghz Intel Centrino dual core.
And no, I don't overclock because my chipset doesn't allow that. I could just use copper wire and physical overclock it but I don't want to

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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:21 pm
by spudthug
if im not mistaking that pipe u have has drinking water in big letter on it?? i have some of that and mine is rated to 600 psi .... if u could build a stirrup pump and get fittings and glue rated to that then holy sh*t..but its unlikely and idk if i have the same pipe as u...
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:51 pm
by zeigs spud
o.o very nice first! thats a nice bit o' spuding got there!
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:09 pm
by noname
"All the pipe and fittings have a pressure rating with nsf-pw."
Either not true or you did a shitty job cementing, no offense.