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				Black Iron QEV Cannon
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:03 am
				by pvcmaster
				Here is my almost completed black iron cannon. It has a 1 1/4" chamber, 3/4" QEV from McMaster, and the fill setup is a 1/4" schrader on a mini ball valve. The barrel is only temporary, as it is the only barrel-like thing i could find, but it fits nerf dart tag darts perfectly. I was able to put some through both sides of a cereal box at 110 psi, which i think is impressive for nerf darts. Future barrel will be copper and approx. 3 ft. long. Questions? Comments?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:10 am
				by lukemc
				Darn it! i made the chicken recipe and i cant read the last instruction. o well. nice cannon i cant wait to see it with the copper barrel
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:14 am
				by jackssmirkingrevenge
				Looking good but the chamber is a tad small, especially if you'll be fitting a longer barrel - unless of course you're going for a shock-pump and 300 psi 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:18 am
				by pvcmaster
				Im fine with it right now, but in the future I will probably get an 18 inch chamber instead of 12 inch.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:23 am
				by jackssmirkingrevenge
				If you're limited to 110 psi, 24 or more inches of chamber would do nicely, particularly if you have a large-ish diameter barrel.  Run some figures through GGDT, it's really useful for telling you when you're simply wasting air by making the chamber any bigger.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:35 am
				by robert23
				That's sweet. I've been wanting to make a nerf sniper. I have to little pest brothers that I would love to get from about thirty feet.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:04 am
				by PVC Arsenal 17
				I have a question.  Where'd you get a schrader with 1/4" threads?  I saw them on McMaster but they were the long stem ones.
Also, how is the QEV qorking for you?  Mine always leaks.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:06 am
				by mopherman
				PVC Arsenal 17 wrote:I have a question.  Where'd you get a schrader with 1/4" threads?  I saw them on McMaster but they were the long stem ones.
Also, how is the QEV qorking for you?  Mine always leaks.
have you taken it apart to see whats wrong? There could be crap in the seal.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:20 am
				by PVC Arsenal 17
				I'm too lazy. 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:21 am
				by pvcmaster
				I found the schrader on the Ace website and had it delivered to the store:
http://www.acehardware.com/product/inde ... Id=1277973
It is really cool and i will be using it for a while on other cannons.
And no, my QEV does not leak, and i hope it never will.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:51 am
				by iknowmy3tables
				why do you have a ball valve on the schrader is it to prevent acidentalfiring during filling that pretty cool
the canon is near flawless like your other cannons but its time for you to start making your cannons more unique
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:05 pm
				by frankrede
				PVC Arsenal 17 wrote:I have a question.  Where'd you get a schrader with 1/4" threads?  I saw them on McMaster but they were the long stem ones.
Also, how is the QEV qorking for you?  Mine always leaks.
I got mine of mcmaster, exactly like that.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:41 pm
				by pvcmaster
				I want to put this cannon into GGDT, but i dont know the valve specs for a 3/4" QEV. Could someone help me with this?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:02 am
				by jackssmirkingrevenge
				You could do it with a generic valve with nominal values (say flow co-efficient 50, opening time 10) and play with barrel lengths and chamber volumes - the performance values won't be realistic, but they will give you a rough guide to what works better than what.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:32 am
				by spud yeti
				looks really nice, well done.