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Twitches Science Project V.2. "SNCA"

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:16 am
by TwitchTheAussie
Well ever since V.1 "Whompah Stompah" blew up from an attack of MAPP gas, I decided to rebuild it. V.2 is finished. I gave it the name "Spray and Click Affair" because thats basically what it is :lol: Anyway its just a basic cannon, piezo lighter and a fan. I screwed everything together so it wont separate after every shot, and epoxied it all up.

Had to give a demo today so that went good. Got 150+m with a cut up rubber ball and it gave me good marks just because it outshot the ballista a kid entered.

My problem is this. Being an avid shooter I know what a sonic boom sounds like and my cannon made one. Normally at most combustions make 30-40 psi and my c:b ration is a bit off bout 3:1 and despite the ball being wedged in tight barely halfway down the barrel but it still made a sonic boom.

How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:33 am
by hi
my guess is that the gas expanding is the sonic boom and not the rubber ball it self.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:04 am
by TwitchTheAussie
Thats what I thought thanks man :P

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:22 am
by f.c
you got to make a potato cannon for a science project. nice.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:29 am
by Fnord
They let you build a gun for a science project in australia? Are they illegal where you live?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:44 am
by spud yeti
youre really lucky to have the excuse to build a cannon as a school project! As hi said, its probably just the gas, not the projectile(unfortunately!). Good luck for it, and I hope you get good marks 8)

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:11 pm
by frankrede
How sure are you that you broke the sound barrier?
Chronograph?
I doubt that a run of the mill cannon with a bad C/B and a poorly fitted ammo would break the sound barrier.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:44 am
by TwitchTheAussie
The ammo fitted pretty tightly and Ive grown up around guns so I do know what sound something makes when it breaks the sound barrier Frank. And the cops let me off lightly just because I had an official note from the school saying I could make one.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:49 pm
by jimmy101
Not a chance that you broke the sound barrier.

You can not tell how fast a round is going by just the sound. A very experienced shooter might be able to tell after firing many rounds of a particular caliber and varying loads and chrono'ing every shot. But, that knowledge would be completely useless when it came to a round as different as a "rubber ball". He would have to go through the entire process with the new round; multiple shots, varrying loads and a chrony, to learn what supersonic sounds like for the new round.

A spud gun does not have to be supersonic to make a hell of a lot of noise. A large CB ratio will make the gun much louder than it would be with a more reasonable CB. The sound you heard was nothing more than the "bang" of the gun itself.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:12 am
by TwitchTheAussie
I never said it was the ball. I was just confused about how gases at 30-40 psi could break the sound barrier. Once again I will say in bold I know it wasnt the rubber ball I was just confused about how gases at 30-40 psi could break the sound barrier. I know Im not making much sense but I have personal reasons for it.

I just didnt think 30-40 psi would break the sound barrier by itself.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:42 am
by Modderxtrordanare
You didn't break the sound barrier.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:57 am
by wannabie
i agree with modder i highly doubt that you broke the sound barrier.... sorry to break your bubble lol

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:30 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
30-40 psi is 15-25 psi more than the atmosphere, with that sort of impetus given the right conditions there's no reason why gasses shouldn't accelerate past the speed of sound.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:43 am
by wannabie
hmm i guess but then again i dont really get what you just said... so if i slightly understand what you just said and the gasses did reach the speed of sound isnt that what DDT is?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:27 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
DDT? Isn't that a pesticide :?

Gasses reaching the speed of sound will make a sonic crack, that's why explosions are so friggin loud ;)