Mjöllnir - 1.5" porting Handheld Piston Hybrid
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==HackADay Article==
This will probably look fairly familiar seeing as I was inspired by SpudBlaster15's piston hybrid that he posted the other month. I've been working on this since early September and now it's in working order. I'm sure, like SpudBlaster, I'll change a few things over the coming weeks but for now this is its completed state.
I've fired about six shots out of it since I completed it yesterday. Five shots at a 5x mix and one at a 7x mix. After that, the piston bounce damaged the sealing face causing it to leak and damaged the gasket on the pilot valve part of the piston. I've now increased flow out of the pilot valve to minimize piston bounce. So it should be up and running by Monday or Tuesday and hopefully some videos will follow.
Specifications:
Chamber: 50mm galvanized iron pipe and fittings about 750mm long
Barrel: 2m length of 51.8mm O.D. x 1.5mm thick stainless steel tube
Valve: 1.5" porting bolt and washer piston valve, double o-ringed, rides in 50mm diameter galvanised iron pipe and fittings.
Pilot valve: Unbalanced spool valve.
Ignition: wireless 100kv stungun circuit wired up to two sets of electrodes like those seen in Hubb's homemade spark plug.
Metering: Manometric
Fuel: MAPP gas
Venting: So far I have been using the cannon as a pneumatic to vent it (put pressure behind the piston, fill the chamber, vent the pilot volume), but that takes a lot of effort with a track pump so I might try other methods.
The fuel meter disconnects from the cannon when it's ready to fire. There is an air regulator between the ball valve and 0-15PSI gauge to protect the gauge from being over-pressurized on accident, the regulator is locked in at 10PSI. The whole thing weighs around 17kgs. HGDT predicts ~500ms golf balls at a 10x mix if I remember correctly. Testing will come in the next few weeks once everything has been fine-tuned, sorted out and University is finished for the year. Now for pictures...
Edit 14/11/11:
Increased pilot porting to 25mm because piston bounce has been destroying my sealing faces. New barrel support. New remote ignition. New piston sealing face. Added chamber length. New barrel. You will probably notice the 1" galv pipe sticking out of the chamber. I removed the second ignition electrodes and put the pipe in its place to help deal with recoil. Recoil will still be a bitch, but hopefully not so bad. The Steyr rifle sling is there to help distribute the weight.
Videos:
[youtube][/youtube]
[youtube][/youtube]
Old photos:
Ignition setup
Meter disconnected
Pilot valve
Barrel porting/seat (nipple epoxied in to a bushing)
Piston sealing against seat
Electrodes in chamber
Electrodes
Piston face
Piston in housing
Barrel porting/seat
This will probably look fairly familiar seeing as I was inspired by SpudBlaster15's piston hybrid that he posted the other month. I've been working on this since early September and now it's in working order. I'm sure, like SpudBlaster, I'll change a few things over the coming weeks but for now this is its completed state.
I've fired about six shots out of it since I completed it yesterday. Five shots at a 5x mix and one at a 7x mix. After that, the piston bounce damaged the sealing face causing it to leak and damaged the gasket on the pilot valve part of the piston. I've now increased flow out of the pilot valve to minimize piston bounce. So it should be up and running by Monday or Tuesday and hopefully some videos will follow.
Specifications:
Chamber: 50mm galvanized iron pipe and fittings about 750mm long
Barrel: 2m length of 51.8mm O.D. x 1.5mm thick stainless steel tube
Valve: 1.5" porting bolt and washer piston valve, double o-ringed, rides in 50mm diameter galvanised iron pipe and fittings.
Pilot valve: Unbalanced spool valve.
Ignition: wireless 100kv stungun circuit wired up to two sets of electrodes like those seen in Hubb's homemade spark plug.
Metering: Manometric
Fuel: MAPP gas
Venting: So far I have been using the cannon as a pneumatic to vent it (put pressure behind the piston, fill the chamber, vent the pilot volume), but that takes a lot of effort with a track pump so I might try other methods.
The fuel meter disconnects from the cannon when it's ready to fire. There is an air regulator between the ball valve and 0-15PSI gauge to protect the gauge from being over-pressurized on accident, the regulator is locked in at 10PSI. The whole thing weighs around 17kgs. HGDT predicts ~500ms golf balls at a 10x mix if I remember correctly. Testing will come in the next few weeks once everything has been fine-tuned, sorted out and University is finished for the year. Now for pictures...
Edit 14/11/11:
Increased pilot porting to 25mm because piston bounce has been destroying my sealing faces. New barrel support. New remote ignition. New piston sealing face. Added chamber length. New barrel. You will probably notice the 1" galv pipe sticking out of the chamber. I removed the second ignition electrodes and put the pipe in its place to help deal with recoil. Recoil will still be a bitch, but hopefully not so bad. The Steyr rifle sling is there to help distribute the weight.
Videos:
[youtube][/youtube]
[youtube][/youtube]
Old photos:
Ignition setup
Meter disconnected
Pilot valve
Barrel porting/seat (nipple epoxied in to a bushing)
Piston sealing against seat
Electrodes in chamber
Electrodes
Piston face
Piston in housing
Barrel porting/seat
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Plumber's wet dream, love it but pretty is as pretty does, let's see it in action!
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Ha, soon we piston hybrid builders will conquer the entire world.
France: you're next.
(also Crowley, your mythology reference wasn't lost on me. You should read "The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul":))
France: you're next.
(also Crowley, your mythology reference wasn't lost on me. You should read "The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul":))
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muhahahahahaha!! In your dreamsHa, soon we piston hybrid builders will conquer the entire world
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so you're saying that manometric metering works fine, right ?
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WOW, I've seen some WIP pics, but I'm still amazed! great work MrC
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Not this part of Europe you won't, friction seals FTW!Fnord wrote:Ha, soon we piston hybrid builders will conquer the entire world.
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Maybe I'll get round to it but I'm still working my way through the Prose Eddaalso Crowley, your mythology reference wasn't lost on me. You should read "The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul
Yup, I prefer it over volumetric. My 0-15PSI gauge isn't even that expensive, cost me $20 secondhand. No idea what the accuracy is but it would be around 1.0-2.0% F.S. If I recall correctly, I worked out that even a 2.0% F.S. accurate gauge would give either a lean mix of 4.2 mapp:air ratio or a rich mix of 5.0 mapp:air, which is still right in the zone for ignition.so you're saying that manometric metering works fine, right ?
Thanks How are you coming along on your hybrid?WOW, I've seen some WIP pics, but I'm still amazed! great work MrC
Shouldn't be too hard to takeover your part of the world then...those 1mm BBs are really scary, I might have to wear a sweatshirtNot this part of Europe you won't, friction seals FTW!
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you might want to reconsider this, we've got larda, spudfarm, BTB, psycix, al-xg and so onShouldn't be too hard to takeover your part of the world then
ohh and we can throw jsr's failing prototypes at you
so you're not using a reg ? well I paid less than 10$ for a 0-51psi reg so I am pretty sure you can find something similar in NZMy 0-15PSI gauge isn't even that expensive, cost me $20
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Na, the regulator shown on the metering setup is only there to protect the 0-15PSI gauge from over-pressurization. If I forgot to close the ball valve and open the air inlet, 50PSI or so could run through the 0-15PSI gauge and ruin it.so you're not using a reg ? well I paid less than 10$ for a 0-51psi reg so I am pretty sure you can find something similar in NZ
You want to use manometric metering with just a regulator? I guess that would work as long as the regulator is accurate enough. I assume you meant 0-15PSI and not 0-51PSI reg?
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naah the one I got is 0-51 psi (0-3.5 bar)... looks just like a standard reg
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Eh, mine's coming along, just slower than I planned. I broke a spark plug yesterday
Also, I thought you were going to put a BV vent, when's that coming?
Also, I thought you were going to put a BV vent, when's that coming?
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I got sick of looking for a sparkplug that I could tap in to some fitting so I just made my own like in Hubb's guideLockednloaded wrote:Eh, mine's coming along, just slower than I planned. I broke a spark plug yesterday
Also, I thought you were going to put a BV vent, when's that coming?
Don't think I will put one in. I can run the cannon like a pneumatic which will vent out the chamber, I also need to try SB15's method of just pressurizing the meter to 140PSI and venting it through the chamber.