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Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:26 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
It's been over a decade since I first made this project and almost as long since I dabbled in hybrids so here is a recent project along the same lines:

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Nothing particularly special about the design, chamber volume is around 34cc and it's currently fitted with a 490mm long 6mm barrel, construction is steel and aluminum.

I'm using aluminum from the side of a beer can as a burst disk, using air only they burst just below 1500 psi

Here is what it looks like internally, if it seems a little unusual that's because it's actually part of another project that I will share at a later date:

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At 19x using butane it will happily push 0.25 gram airsoft BBs at over twice the speed of sound :D

The goggles, they do nothing!





Biodegradable BBs are fragile but at these speeds the penetration is impressive, right through the goggles and the polystyrene head and into the backstop behind it. I added a pellet tin and it still blew through as if it wasn't there:

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Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:10 am
by mark.f
He's still at it! Nice work as always.
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:26 pm
Here is what it looks like internally, if it seems a little unusual that's because it's actually part of another project that I will share at a later date:
Cryptic as always. ;) Does it have to do with cartridges?

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:09 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
mark.f wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:10 am
Does it have to do with cartridges?
Thanks! It's sort-of related with cartridges in that I mated it with the cartridge from the fl(air) gun to make a dual chamber testbed, lots of data generated with that one so it will take some time to compile.

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:10 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
I made a 0.177" barrel attachment for this thing, at a 20x mix it was pushing 0.35 gram BBs to just over 1800 feet per second :D that's 39 ft lbs of energy!



The same barrel hooked up directly to the air cartridge at 2500 psi yielded 1143 fps, still impressive but only 16 ft lbs, less than half the energy.

When it comes to sheer power, hybrids will deliver it better than pneumatics and with less complexity.

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:29 pm
by hectmarr
That flash on the first objective was great. :o Good job and an inspiration to many, for sure.
I am compiling these new tests with the pure hybrid, in "Jack's Bible" 8-)

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:56 pm
by mark.f
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:10 pm
That's a hell of a BB gun. :D

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:22 am
by petroben
That's quite an interesting project! The speed and penetration are impressive. Looking forward to hearing more about your other projects. Stay safe!

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:48 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
mark.f wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:56 pm
That's a hell of a BB gun. :D
We have moved somewhat past "you'll shoot your eye out!" territory into something altogether more serious :twisted:

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:12 am
by Anatine Duo
Hmmmn just when I thought I had no interest in hybrids

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:21 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Anatine Duo wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:12 am
Hmmmn just when I thought I had no interest in hybrids
For sheer power there really is no comparison with pneumatics, even with thousands of psi of air and fast valves you will struggle to get the same results.

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:48 pm
by Anatine Duo
Yes it's like the difference between an Otto cycle engine and... an air engine :)

Re: Mini Hybrid II

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:49 pm
by Moonbogg
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:21 pm
Anatine Duo wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:12 am
Hmmmn just when I thought I had no interest in hybrids
For sheer power there really is no comparison with pneumatics, even with thousands of psi of air and fast valves you will struggle to get the same results.
I decided that the low-mix hybrid is the most efficient and easiest way to get a good, powerful, full-sized cannon. Insquirt propane as usual, pump a little air and BAM!