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Bad power?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:05 am
by spudd
I welded a spudgun about 30cm long with the barrel. i use a BBQ igniter wired with a sparkplug.
I sprayed som butane/propane refill and loaded with a little sharpened bolt with tape around it to make it air tight, then i shot at a apple and it only went about half way throug. earlyer i made a little blackpowder gun with the same barrel and i shot throu 3 apples no problemo.

Is it more power in blackpowder that gas? i really got a real bang with the powder, the neighburs wonderd whata hell was going on.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:10 am
by spanerman
im guessing that the mix is bad....try propane metering..look it up in the wiki

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:14 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Is it more power in blackpowder that gas?
Definitely - the performance you described is normal for a combustion of that size. If you want real power with this sort of laucher, you're going to have to think bigger.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:37 am
by spud yeti
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Is it more power in blackpowder that gas?
Definitely - the performance you described is normal for a combustion of that size. If you want real power with this sort of laucher, you're going to have to think bigger.
As you go bigger the gap will close between the two because the gas increases drastically in power whereas the blackpowder is unfeesable to increase in size at a certain point and will plateau.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:02 am
by Insomniac
Black powder would give you more power, but the great thing about spudguns is that there isn't much residue, they can have simple electric ignition without one-time-use ignitors, and the fuel is EVERYWHERE. Go into anyones house and it will contain spudgun propellent...errm, I mean aerosol cans. :lol:

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:14 am
by spud yeti
Yay for axe deoderant :D

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:15 am
by potatoflinger
spud yeti wrote:Yay for axe deoderant :D
Why would you put that stuff in a cannon, it smells like fart spray :fart:

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:21 am
by spud yeti
potatoflinger wrote:
spud yeti wrote:Yay for axe deoderant :D
Why would you put that stuff in a cannon, it smells like fart spray :fart:
Haha, too true, but everyone still seems to own it :?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:34 am
by spudd
thanks for the answers! Then i have to build a bigger combustion chamber but with the same small barrel and i will get those 3 apples

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:39 am
by spud yeti
Why not build it with a bigger chamber and barrel, to maximize efficiency, because your barrel is just as important as the chamber :wink:

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:58 am
by spudd
yeah, but i want to shot small hard projectiles and no potatoes

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by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:41 pm
by spudd
hmm that sucks.. So i cant make a more powerfull cannon that can shoot small projectiles. I better get som more of that black powder

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:17 pm
by frankrede
You can, did you just not here what he said?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:55 pm
by noob of noobs
I'm no moderator, but isn't talking about black powder banned on the forum? :roll: Plus, I'm not sure using it in PVC is a wise choice when it comes to fuel... Anyway, good luck. I also think to penetrate 3 apples you'll need a larger cannon with a larger barrel.