Im tearing my hair out with this calculation!!!

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Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:38 pm

thedeathofall wrote:wait, so its the same formula?

I still don't understand, i may not be reading this correctly.
Sit down with a pencil and paper. Make a drawing of the two tanks. Right down the P1V1=P2V2 formula. Think about things for a minute. Figure out the correct equation.

If you insist I'll spoon feed ya the answer later. :D
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:20 pm

haha okay. I did, but i still don't understand how that equation works for different pressure chambers. maybe im just being an idiot...
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:51 pm

What jimmy's suggesting might not be completely obvious unless you derive it from the ideal gas law.

The ideal gas law says P * V = m * R * T (here R is the specific gas constant, not R_bar like in the molar ideal gas law). Solve for m to do the procedure Technician and spot are thinking of. m = P * V / R * T

For simplicity we'll assume an isothermal process so T is constant for all equations. R is a constant too. Note that the mass is directly proportional to P * V. So you can subtract P * V instead of mass in the same procedure mentioned by Technician and spot.

Note that this is not strictly correct as the process will not be perfectly isothermal and not all regulators are consistent. It's close enough however.

Also, if you want a formula for the number of shots you can get from a regulated source, use this:

number of shots = V_r * (P_r - P) / P * V_c

V_r is the gas reservoir volume
P_r is the starting gas reservoir pressure
P is the regulated pressure
V_c is the volume of the pressure chamber

All pressures are absolute.

Round down. I derived this from P1 * V1 = P2 * V2 realizing that the two are proportional to mass.
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Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:58 am

Thank you kind sir. I think i actually understood that, at least the important stuff :D
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