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GGDT Something strange is happening

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:40 am
by boyntonstu
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The only input difference is the chamber OD.

Am I missing something?

BoyntonStu

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:44 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Double the OD and you get 4 times the volume, which accounts for the jump in performance

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:46 am
by Ragnarok
Oh dear, we have the OD/ID problem again.

Chamber OD is the inner diameter of the outer pipe of the chamber.
Chamber ID is the outer diameter of an inner coaxial pipe (usually the barrel). If you're not using a co-axial chamber design, then this should be set to zero.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:33 am
by boyntonstu
Ragnarok wrote:Oh dear, we have the OD/ID problem again.

Chamber OD is the inner diameter of the outer pipe of the chamber.
Chamber ID is the outer diameter of an inner coaxial pipe (usually the barrel). If you're not using a co-axial chamber design, then this should be set to zero.
Mucho thanko's!

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Is this a reasonable representation of my layout?

BTW 54 grains is a glass marble.

BoyntonStu

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:43 am
by Ragnarok
boyntonstu wrote:Is this a reasonable representation of my layout?
I can't be entirely sure. I'm not familiar with US pipe sizes - but nothing seems too much out of place.
BTW 54 grains is a glass marble.
An 0.8" glass marble that weighs 54 grains? I think not.

If you're using wadding for a smaller marble, maybe, but if not, a marble of that size would weigh around 170 grains.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:54 am
by D_Hall
Ragnarok wrote:Oh dear, we have the OD/ID problem again.

Chamber OD is the inner diameter of the outer pipe of the chamber.
Chamber ID is the outer diameter of an inner coaxial pipe (usually the barrel). If you're not using a co-axial chamber design, then this should be set to zero.
Or to put it in the terms that GGDT assumes.....

OD is the outer diameter of the volume of air contained by the chamber.
ID is the inner diameter of the volume of air contained by the chamber.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:56 am
by boyntonstu
Ragnarok wrote:
boyntonstu wrote:Is this a reasonable representation of my layout?
I can't be entirely sure. I'm not familiar with US pipe sizes - but nothing seems too much out of place.
BTW 54 grains is a glass marble.
An 0.8" glass marble that weighs 54 grains? I think not.

If you're using wadding for a smaller marble, maybe, but if not, a marble of that size would weigh around 170 grains.
You are very astute!

Wadding around a .62 glass marble.

I calculated the marble weight on 2.5 gm/cm^3.

I will weigh them to make sure.

BoyntonStu

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:33 pm
by D_Hall
Don't forget that you need to include the mass of the wadding.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:02 pm
by Ragnarok
That still sounds low (even without D_Hall's point above). I calculate ~79 grains for a 0.62" marble.

Still, to be sure, I've weighed some of my (nominally) 5/8" marbles on my 0.01 gram scale. Almost all bang on 5.11 grams - or 78.9 grains.