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no-waste piston valve

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:35 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Nothing original, it's basically how a washing machine or dishwasher solenoid valve works, the pilot volume is dumped through the barrel. Just a piece of mental flatulence, I doubt it would have any real benefit over a simple QDV.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:38 am
by saefroch
Looks like it could be interesting, but it would probably require rather high tolerances to get the internal piston to re-seat inside the external when the external kicks back and opens.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:56 am
by cammyd32
Well you can try it out now with your new lathe :wink: I think you would see a minor performance increase but not enough to make any considerable difference. :D I like your train of thought though. :)

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:00 am
by POLAND_SPUD
heh that's not bad at all

if you increase the diameter of the middle piston you might be able to build a full auto gun

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:07 am
by Gun Freak
Didnt BtB post another variation on this a while back?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:10 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
See, not original:

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:49 pm
by Technician1002
This is the same stock configuration of many sprinkler valves. This is done to prevent water spills while the valve is operating. Pressure in the discharge will provide back pressure on the pilot valve and reduce opening speed. With the outlet blocked the valve simply won't open as there is no pressure differential on the piston or diaphragm.

Most spudders opt for speed of opening instead of trying to save the vented pilot by dumping it in the barrel. A smaller pilot and small EQ greatly reduce the amount of air vented out the pilot during the shot.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:21 pm
by al-xg
but it would probably require rather high tolerances to get the internal piston to re-seat inside the external when the external kicks back and opens.
You could just have a longer ported hollow section, so the small piston never stops being guided even when open.