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Chamber sealing valve.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:37 am
by killagorrila99
Yes yes I know its been done, Supah right? Tell me if you like it.

Light blue is compressed air, Piston seals with O-rings.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:15 am
by POS
It should work, but tel me, why go trough all the trouble and make a chamber sealing valve, when a barrel sealing valse is easier to make, and bether, due to less dead volume.

Nice pic though !

I like the tennisball bumper.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:06 pm
by squeaks
Ok, can somebody answer this. If barrel sealing valves work a little faster, why is the supah vavle a chamber sealing valve? Is there some reason why Joel makes 'em chamber sealers?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:36 pm
by Benny
Ok, can somebody answer this. If barrel sealing valves work a little faster, why is the supah vavle a chamber sealing valve? Is there some reason why Joel makes 'em chamber sealers?
His works great cause its damn big.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:24 am
by squeaks
I know it's big, but he could make one just as big that's a barrel sealer. It just doesn't make sense to do the extra effort for a piston style that doesn't work as fast.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:58 am
by Recruit
Because he likes the apperance,size,performance,access to it is better maybe. He just plain and simple likes them

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:08 am
by CS
How come it is every time builds a chamber sealing valve they think its a supah? Just cause a Dodge Caravan has four wheels it doesnt make it a Benz.

Yes, the concept may be very 'straight forward', but you have abused to go into how your going to implement the given system. From what I can tell it looks as if on the 'left' side the pistons movement will be restricted in its stroke to the 'right' by the 'stops' in the tee, and 'left' by the bumper? Am I right? [The lip on the piston led me to that speculation. And I havent the foggiest on how you intend the sealing portion of the valve to work. It just bugs me on you diagram that you fail to recognize any variation in obstacles, and diameter. You just drew the T as if it was straight through.

Benny, read the F-in' question.

Squeaks, to tell you the truth I dont know. Something ive always wondered, but never asked. So im glad that you asked the question. 'Performance' as you say seems as if it is one of his focal points, so why wouldnt he simply make it a barrel sealer? [To re-state the question]

Recruit, the size of the valve could easily vary, since its concept of operation has no effect to the size of the valve. Access, if were working of a T configuration on both valve it could have exact access. Performance? Have you totally missed the jist of the two, two liners posted by 'Squeaks'? Appearance, may very well be the reason. Simply, since T config barrel and chamber sealers are oriented different. Yeah im pretty sure he fancies himself since his valve is promoted and largely contested of 'god like' status among other valves.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:48 am
by Recruit
I was simply throwing out ideas as to why he might like the valve only he can tell use what it is that makes him like it so

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:08 am
by killagorrila99
pimpmann22 wrote: Yes, the concept may be very 'straight forward', but you have abused to go into how your going to implement the given system. From what I can tell it looks as if on the 'left' side the pistons movement will be restricted in its stroke to the 'right' by the 'stops' in the tee, and 'left' by the bumper? Am I right? [The lip on the piston led me to that speculation. And I havent the foggiest on how you intend the sealing portion of the valve to work. It just bugs me on you diagram that you fail to recognize any variation in obstacles, and diameter. You just drew the T as if it was straight through.




I will file out the stops in the tee. It will be well lubricated and should work very well. And god, this is a primative design. Sure point out the faults but it hasnt actually been BUILT YET! wait untill its done before you critisize.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:29 pm
by sgort87
You don't seriously expect it to make any kind of seal when you plan to "file out the tee" do you?

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:05 pm
by POS
That's why I dont like chamber sealing valves. I dont see the advantage to piston sealing or diafragma sealing.