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MRR
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After watching some diagrams about regulators I decided to make my own.
The following device is based upon this little diagram:
My regulator operates the same like in the diagram but instead of a diaphragm I used a little squeeze piston (two gaskets on a screw squeezed to fit) and a presta valve at the gas inlet.
The spring rests on a little 12mm ball bearing, this way the plug turns very easy to set the force.
I was able to regulate my shop compressor between 8 and 0.5 bar.
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Jack_Hogg
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:08 pm
Very nice, I like it when people try new things, it also will save you a few bucks

I am also thinking of making something like that, but not a regulator, but a safety valve for my fridgecompressor, so it won't go over 40 bars and destroy my pressure gauge. Anyway... I like it alot!
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POLAND_SPUD
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:37 pm
cool I've been looking for something like this... moar details please
@jack_H
that's actually quite simple... all you need is a piston with a strong spring behind it... or a shrader valve with a much stronger spring
it's better than a pop-off valve as it won't vent the whole system
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JDP12
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:57 pm
Yes please more details!!
Excellent job I would love to see if this would work around 800 psi or so
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:31 pm
Good job good way to save some money for other stuff... do you happen to know how much pressure that 1/2" Tee can take?
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inonickname
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Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:12 am
800 psi wouldn't be out of the question for a 1/2" brass tee, so it could regulate CO2 if made well.
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Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:42 am
inonickname wrote:800 psi wouldn't be out of the question for a 1/2" brass tee, so it could regulate CO2 if made well.
Depends on the brass.
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Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:16 pm
What a beauty!

I might build one too in the next few months. However, I'd equip it with a (homemade or not) safety popoff, so if the regulator would fail to seal, it won't fill the devices behind it with unregulated pressure.
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Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:17 pm
Seeing this design ( I am very tired right now, so I might be wrong) I think it does not have a pressure independant piston.
Meaning..it will regulate up to a certain maximum point. Once the input pressure is raised above this critical point the valve won't be able to re-open the inlet channel.
This is because it works by sliding off the shrader.Imagine the input pressure raising beyond the maximum the spring can open.
It will stay shut.
BUT:
If you combine this idea with the pushbutton valve, you will have a true regulator.It will pull the valve shut when the low pressure side has reached it's max.Not matter what the input pressure will be, it will re-open once the low pressure side drops...
Only important thing is to make the low side piston larger than it's counter piston.
Put the spring behind the counter piston ( formerly the pushbutton)
Good to finally see someone take the effort of building a homemade reg, but as I have said before, the pushbutton principle is much better suited for it.
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MRR
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:39 am
It's true that the design has no pressure independent piston, that's why I took a presta valve with a very small opening surface. The way it is, the construction isn't that strong anyways.
It's more like a prove of concept, something you can build up on.
I've thought about the dilemma of the maximum pressure input and have already ideas to solve that problem. It's just a matter on how to build it with my recourses and without making it to bulky.
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:28 am
inonickname wrote:800 psi wouldn't be out of the question for a 1/2" brass tee, so it could regulate CO2 if made well.
Considering the force exerted by high pressure on the surface area of the diaphragm, I don't think it can achieve high pressure output using anything less than a large, powerful die spring (or equivalent) on the low pressure side of the diaphragm.
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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:23 am
velocity3x wrote:inonickname wrote:800 psi wouldn't be out of the question for a 1/2" brass tee, so it could regulate CO2 if made well.
Considering the force exerted by high pressure on the surface area of the diaphragm, I don't think it can achieve high pressure output using anything less than a large, powerful die spring (or equivalent) on the low pressure side of the diaphragm.
An air spring is always an option.
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