solenoid to pilot a hammer valve

Show us your pneumatic spud gun! Discuss pneumatic (compressed gas) powered potato guns and related accessories. Valve types, actuation, pipe, materials, fittings, compressors, safety, gas choices, and more.
User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:11 am

I know, I have already printed your diagram dewey-1, as soon as I get all the parts I will start making it. Could you teach me how to adjust the fire rate? Ps: I have to mod the valve again, apparently the 12v battery I bought isn't as strong as a car battery :(
Goats spudz
Specialist 4
Specialist 4
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:31 pm
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:35 am

wyz2285 wrote:I know, I have already printed your diagram dewey-1, as soon as I get all the parts I will start making it. Could you teach me how to adjust the fire rate? Ps: I have to mod the valve again, apparently the 12v battery I bought isn't as strong as a car battery :(
run more batteries in parallel or use a weaker spring?
User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:44 am

weaker spring, of course.
The battery pack is already big and expensive. Btw dewey-1 thanks for the link
Goats spudz
Specialist 4
Specialist 4
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:31 pm
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:57 am

wyz2285 wrote:weaker spring, of course.
The battery pack is already big and expensive. Btw dewey-1 thanks for the link
Agreed! :D
User avatar
dewey-1
Sergeant 3
Sergeant 3
Posts: 1298
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 am
Location: NE Wisconsin USA

Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:41 am

wyz2285 wrote:I know, I have already printed your diagram dewey-1
Ps: I have to mod the valve again, apparently the 12v battery I bought isn't as strong as a car battery :(
Make sure to print the one with the comments on it. Not the early one I posted.

What type is the battery? Picture and/or link please.
User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:25 am

1.2v cell connected into two 6v packs, then connect them into a 12v pack, 1000mAh only sadly :(
Attachments
IMG375.jpg
User avatar
dewey-1
Sergeant 3
Sergeant 3
Posts: 1298
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 am
Location: NE Wisconsin USA

Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:48 pm

Are those NiCd AA size cells or something else. A link will help me solve the problem.

I know NiCd sub C size will work.
Last edited by dewey-1 on Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:57 pm

Yes they are Ni-Cd AA cells, well I would post a link buy I bought them from a local electronic store :roll: and they this type is all they had, hope they works :?
And well... is burst fire possible without complicating too much? Sorry I know I had said that it´s not useful but I found out that a lot AEGs have that option :oops:
User avatar
dewey-1
Sergeant 3
Sergeant 3
Posts: 1298
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 am
Location: NE Wisconsin USA

Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:11 pm

If they are Ni-Cd they should work OK.
Is there any part/model number on the battery?
There usually is for identification purposes.
Last edited by dewey-1 on Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:16 pm

I think not... I bought these cells individually then packed them.
camelion Ni-cd 1.2v AA 1000mah, that´s it
User avatar
dewey-1
Sergeant 3
Sergeant 3
Posts: 1298
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 am
Location: NE Wisconsin USA

Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:43 pm

User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:52 pm

Looks like yes :lol: but my are cheaper :D
How mony shots will they make more or less?
User avatar
POLAND_SPUD
Captain
Captain
Posts: 5402
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:43 pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:22 pm

is burst fire possible without complicating too much? Sorry I know I had said that it´s not useful but I found out that a lot AEGs have that option
it is possible... though do you have a loading mech on that ?? if you don't then what's the point of adding that feature ??

It would be more practical to get an aeg (I assume you want it for airsoft ??). Seriously, you need an air chamber for that an as much batteries as you need for an AEG. So what's the point ?


Too be honest I don't like your design at all. Your using electricity to do what it does worst (I hope you get what I mean). This wouldn't be such a big deal if it was machined, as that would help to reduce friction, but it isn't. Lol I probably sound very negative.
Children are the future

unless we stop them now
User avatar
wyz2285
First Sergeant 2
First Sergeant 2
Austria
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 am
Location: Porto, Portugal
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:36 pm

The valve stem is polished on a lathe first :wink: low friction.
I want more power than a AEG, this valve+800psi :D and a AEG needs more battery, my goal was a gun simular to baikal blackbird.
Again, this valve is also the reloading mechanism, see the first diagram I posted.
(I bet you were very positive if I had used the 3-way+cylinder option :wink: )
Original thread where I got the Idea
User avatar
POLAND_SPUD
Captain
Captain
Posts: 5402
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:43 pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:27 pm

I bet you were very positive if I had used the 3-way+cylinder option
Now you get it :D
nah really dude... solenoid 3 way valves do have a small solenoid inside - the only difference is that it is machined and a proven design that serves as a pilot valve for the main valve... so essentially you don't need much electricity to open it
Last edited by POLAND_SPUD on Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Children are the future

unless we stop them now
Post Reply