That'll hold to 150psi?
The other thing I worry about with a metal coaxial is that the pressure of the gas pressing on the walls of the barrel might make it implode. Has this even happened?
Small coaxial
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good epoxy will hold, I take my epoxied pneumatics to 400 psirixth wrote:That'll hold to 150psi?
The other thing I worry about with a metal coaxial is that the pressure of the gas pressing on the walls of the barrel might make it implode. Has this even happened?
The amount of force required to make your copper barrel implode is much higher than any pressure you'll manage to reach with a bike pump
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they're sh!te, buy yourself a good stirrup pump like this one and get more pressure faster with some good exercise to boot 
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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hehe I didn't mean that specific model 
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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Yeah, my old bicycle pump i could get to go to 160 psi and it wasn't a shock pump 
. they do break eventualy.
. they do break eventualy.
Just get a decent bike pump if you want this to be cheap. The emergency tire pumps are slow, unreliable, poorly built, and prone to rapid and destructive overheating. Regulated gas from a high pressure tank would be your best bet if you have a decent budget, probably either CO2, air, or nitrogen, as helium gets expensive to buy regulators for.
As for the strength of your construction material: The calculated burst pressure for 2" schedule 40 steel pipe is around 1300 psi. Short of solid explosives, or dumping unregulated high pressure tanks into it, you will not make hardware store steel pipe fail. Considering its low quality construction methods, it is amazing how strong it is.
You really do need to use at least 200 psi or so to even make this worthwhile, unless you only plan on shooting for range. To my knowledge, no one has ever made a barrel of reasonable strength implode on a coaxial, and type M copper in those diameters should have a burst pressure of over 1000 psi, although the fittings would be less.
As for the strength of your construction material: The calculated burst pressure for 2" schedule 40 steel pipe is around 1300 psi. Short of solid explosives, or dumping unregulated high pressure tanks into it, you will not make hardware store steel pipe fail. Considering its low quality construction methods, it is amazing how strong it is.
You really do need to use at least 200 psi or so to even make this worthwhile, unless you only plan on shooting for range. To my knowledge, no one has ever made a barrel of reasonable strength implode on a coaxial, and type M copper in those diameters should have a burst pressure of over 1000 psi, although the fittings would be less.
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I'm unsure which schedule it is, I got it from an engineer around here. The walls are thick (maybe 3mm), so I believe it would easily take 200psi.DYI wrote:As for the strength of your construction material: The calculated burst pressure for 2" schedule 40 steel pipe is around 1300 psi.
This is definitely more a range thing, though destructive power is always good. My fittings are only rated to 216psi.DYI wrote:You really do need to use at least 200 psi or so to even make this worthwhile, unless you only plan on shooting for range.
What pumps do you guys use (make/model)?
You may be able to use it, but you should use smoothe pipe if you want a working piston valve. The tighter the tolerance of the piston, the more efficient it is.
If you tell me the inner diameter and outer diameter of the pipe, I can tell you what schedule it is.
Range shots are useless on powerful guns, because you never see or find the ammo, unless it's huge and bright. I did make some range shooting ammo for my most powerful launcher though. The round is shiny black and red, 2.5 feet long, and weighs 7 pounds... It should go about 300 fps, and be relatively easy to find.
If you tell me the inner diameter and outer diameter of the pipe, I can tell you what schedule it is.
Range shots are useless on powerful guns, because you never see or find the ammo, unless it's huge and bright. I did make some range shooting ammo for my most powerful launcher though. The round is shiny black and red, 2.5 feet long, and weighs 7 pounds... It should go about 300 fps, and be relatively easy to find.
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Using this chart: http://www.dsiprocess.com/ProductsServi ... hedule.htm
It seems my pipe is only schedule 10?!
Edit: Youngstown Tube schedule 10 pipe meets the rigorous testing and certification processes of Underwriters Laboratory and Factory Mutual for steel sprinkler pipe with working pressures of 300 psi or less.
I don't know what make my pipe is, but 300psi is more than enough.
It seems my pipe is only schedule 10?!
Edit: Youngstown Tube schedule 10 pipe meets the rigorous testing and certification processes of Underwriters Laboratory and Factory Mutual for steel sprinkler pipe with working pressures of 300 psi or less.
I don't know what make my pipe is, but 300psi is more than enough.
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