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Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:41 am

Here you are, prohibited weapons in Oz:
1 Any explosive, incendiary, irritant or poison gas--
(a) bomb; or
(b) grenade; or
(c) rocket having a propellant charge of more than 100g; or
(d) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than 7g; or
(e) mine;
or a similar device.
2 An article being--
(a) a rimfire magazine with a capacity of more than 15 rounds; or
(b) a centre-fire self-loading rifle magazine, or shotgun magazine, with a capacity of more than 5 rounds; or
(c) a shotgun tubular magazine extension to extend the capacity of a shotgun magazine to more than 5 rounds.
3 A spear gun having an overall length of less than 45cm.
4 A crossbow other than a crossbow manufactured before 1 January 1900.
5 A knife commonly known as a flick knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by any pressure applied to a button, spring or device in or attached to the handle of the knife.
6 A sheath knife that has a sheath that withdraws into its handle by gravity or centrifugal force or if pressure is applied to a button, spring or device attached to or forming part of the sheath, handle or blade of the knife.
7 A walking stick or walking cane containing a sword.
8 A riding crop containing a knife or stiletto.
9 A device known as a Taser Self-Defence weapon or any similar device.
10 A device known as an Urban Skinner push dagger or any similar device.
11 A butterfly knife or any similar device.
12 A knife commonly known as a star knife or any similar device.
13 A flame thrower of military design or similar device.
14 A device known as a Farallon Shark Dart or any similar device that is designed to expel, on contact, any gas or other substance capable of causing bodily harm and that is reasonably capable of being carried concealed about the person.
15 A device known as a Saunders 'Falcon' Hunting Sling or any other article or device in the nature of a hunting sling, catapult or slingshot that is designed for use with, or a component part of which is, a brace that--
(a) fits or rests on the forearm or on another part of the body of the user; and
(b) supports the wrist against the tension of elastic material used to propel a projectile.
16 An article known as the 'Bowen Knife Belt' or any article of similar design capable of concealing or disguising a knife or any like article.
17 Any article or device of a type commonly known as a knuckleduster or metal knuckles or any article or device made or adapted for use as such.
18 A sap glove.
19 A studded glove.
20 Any blowgun capable of projecting a dart.
21 Any dart capable of being projected from a blowgun.
22 A mace or any similar article other than a ceremonial mace made for and used solely as a symbol of authority on ceremonial occasions.
23 Any article or device in the form of a flail in which the striking part is armed with spikes or studded with any protruding matter.
24 A whip the lash of which is comprised wholly or partly of any form of metal.
25 A cat-o'-nine-tails or any similar article or device whether or not it has nine lashes.
26 An article commonly known as kung fu sticks, otherwise known as a nunchaku, or any similar article.
27 A side-handled baton or any similar device.
28 Anything designed or intended as a defence or antipersonnel spray that is capable of discharging by any means any irritant matter (not being an irritant matter referred to in item 29) in liquid, powder, gas or chemical form.
29 Anything designed or intended as a defence or antipersonnel spray that is capable of discharging by any means any irritant matter comprising or containing any 1 or more of the following substances in liquid, powder, gas or chemical form:
(a) chloroacetophenone, known as CN;
(b) orthochlorobenzalmalononitrile, known as CS;
(c) dypenylaminechloroarsone, known as DM or Adamsite;
(d) oleoresin capsicum, known as OC.
30 A ballistic knife (other than a ballistic knife that propels a projectile by means of an explosive) or any similar device.
Maybe they're listed under airgun legislation? i'll have a look...
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:45 am

Weapons Prohibition Act 1998 No 127

Schedule 1 Prohibited weapons , 2 (3) reads "Any device that is designed to propel or launch a bomb, grenade, rocket or missile by any means other than by means of an explosive, including a device known as a PVC cannon."
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:09 am

Right, I was looking at the 1996 act.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Here you are, prohibited weapons in Oz:
1 Any explosive, incendiary, irritant or poison gas--
(a) bomb; or
(b) grenade; or
(c) rocket having a propellant charge of more than 100g; or
(d) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than 7g; or
(e) mine;
or a similar device.
2 An article being--
(a) a rimfire magazine with a capacity of more than 15 rounds; or
(b) a centre-fire self-loading rifle magazine, or shotgun magazine, with a capacity of more than 5 rounds; or
(c) a shotgun tubular magazine extension to extend the capacity of a shotgun magazine to more than 5 rounds.
3 A spear gun having an overall length of less than 45cm.
4 A crossbow other than a crossbow manufactured before 1 January 1900.
5 A knife commonly known as a flick knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by any pressure applied to a button, spring or device in or attached to the handle of the knife.
6 A sheath knife that has a sheath that withdraws into its handle by gravity or centrifugal force or if pressure is applied to a button, spring or device attached to or forming part of the sheath, handle or blade of the knife.
7 A walking stick or walking cane containing a sword.
8 A riding crop containing a knife or stiletto.
9 A device known as a Taser Self-Defence weapon or any similar device.
10 A device known as an Urban Skinner push dagger or any similar device.
11 A butterfly knife or any similar device.
12 A knife commonly known as a star knife or any similar device.
13 A flame thrower of military design or similar device.
14 A device known as a Farallon Shark Dart or any similar device that is designed to expel, on contact, any gas or other substance capable of causing bodily harm and that is reasonably capable of being carried concealed about the person.
15 A device known as a Saunders 'Falcon' Hunting Sling or any other article or device in the nature of a hunting sling, catapult or slingshot that is designed for use with, or a component part of which is, a brace that--
(a) fits or rests on the forearm or on another part of the body of the user; and
(b) supports the wrist against the tension of elastic material used to propel a projectile.
16 An article known as the 'Bowen Knife Belt' or any article of similar design capable of concealing or disguising a knife or any like article.
17 Any article or device of a type commonly known as a knuckleduster or metal knuckles or any article or device made or adapted for use as such.
18 A sap glove.
19 A studded glove.
20 Any blowgun capable of projecting a dart.
21 Any dart capable of being projected from a blowgun.
22 A mace or any similar article other than a ceremonial mace made for and used solely as a symbol of authority on ceremonial occasions.
23 Any article or device in the form of a flail in which the striking part is armed with spikes or studded with any protruding matter.
24 A whip the lash of which is comprised wholly or partly of any form of metal.
25 A cat-o'-nine-tails or any similar article or device whether or not it has nine lashes.
26 An article commonly known as kung fu sticks, otherwise known as a nunchaku, or any similar article.
27 A side-handled baton or any similar device.
28 Anything designed or intended as a defence or antipersonnel spray that is capable of discharging by any means any irritant matter (not being an irritant matter referred to in item 29) in liquid, powder, gas or chemical form.
29 Anything designed or intended as a defence or antipersonnel spray that is capable of discharging by any means any irritant matter comprising or containing any 1 or more of the following substances in liquid, powder, gas or chemical form:
(a) chloroacetophenone, known as CN;
(b) orthochlorobenzalmalononitrile, known as CS;
(c) dypenylaminechloroarsone, known as DM or Adamsite;
(d) oleoresin capsicum, known as OC.
30 A ballistic knife (other than a ballistic knife that propels a projectile by means of an explosive) or any similar device.
Maybe they're listed under airgun legislation? i'll have a look...
man, the Aussie Government certainly doesn't believe in a persons right to defend themselves do they? I guess they figure if the fuzz can't protect you, your stuck, eh?
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:18 am

Benster wrote:man, the Aussie Government certainly doesn't believe in a persons right to defend themselves do they? I guess they figure if the fuzz can't protect you, your stuck, eh?
yep, have a look at this:
24 A whip the lash of which is comprised wholly or partly of any form of metal.
Legally if you hit someone with a chain then you'll probably be charged with possesion of a prohibited weapon too.

That's the issue though, what makes an article a "weapon" is not what it is but how it's used. For example, an assault rifle hanging on a wall is an item of decoration while a pencil used to stab someone is a weapon.
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:25 am

11 A butterfly knife or any similar device.
What?! Does that mean its only illegal when used as a weapon, e.g threatening to hurt somebody?

Well then I don't know why they bother with a list, I wouldn't be surprised if you could beat some to death with your playstation controller
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:36 am

What?! Does that mean its only illegal when used as a weapon, e.g threatening to hurt somebody?


No, if it's on the list then it's on the list - but say you tied a nail to a piece of string, it could fall under the "whip the lash of which is comprised wholly or partly of any form of metal." but no one is going to prosecute you for owning it unless you hit someone with it.
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:41 am

Well then I don't know why they bother with a list, I wouldn't be surprised if you could beat some to death with your playstation controller

LOL mate in some peoples hands just about anything is a weapon.
Our cops aren't too bad, every now and and again you get the ego power tripper but they are usually for the most part friendly guys n gals.....unless you are being freaking retarded and need the punishment.

I'd say they would have gotten a few people with some of those items ^ at the APEC summit last week. Some f&*k witt wanna-be hippy thats out to save the world was dumb enough to stab an officer with a dart or some thing and had a crow bar wrapped in newspaper..... so much for a peaceful protest!!!!!!
Sorry to b*tch but these doll bludging jerk offs are the first to critisise but have little idea on the whole concept that they are protesting about. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ahhh that feels better
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:42 am

Wait would it be illegal to import a scope and bipod into Oz?
I know it ma seem to be a bone question but our laws are
tighter than a Nun's [Fill in the Blank] :D
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:45 am

^ id say you would be able to. You don't need a licence to buy them so I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to, check your local gun hop and ask?
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:51 am

Don't see why not, haven't Choas and a few others imported scopes of eBay?

I just wanna see the customs faces when they see all the sh|t i'm gonna have after my trip to the US of A :P

So far my list is:

10,000 metal BB's
Scope(s)
at least 3 sprinkler valves with blow guns and fittings
3/4" and 1" galv fittings
2 x 4" PVC pressure rated End Caps
1 x 3" " " " " "
3 x 2" " " " " "
500GB Hard Drive
iPod Video(mines somewhere in Rome)
3/4" QEV if i can get my hands on one
Guages etc threaded schraders...

I wanna get some galv pipe nipples as well, but with a mixture of my other stuff it could look like a pipe bomb. :roll:
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:52 am

Scopes and bi-pods are fully legal, and so are bongs,, as long as you don't use them 8)
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:54 am

Make sure its not too heavy, isn't there a maximum weight for luggage? It would be a shame to have to post it all back :(
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:57 am

I think it's 20kg, but you put your foot under the suitcase and rest your foot on the side panel and it takes a good 5-10kg off :P
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Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:05 am

stuff the government i mean seriously if i want to make a potato gun i will and
if they don't like it they can get stuffed.
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