My biggest question is, would the magazine idea work? Or would I need to do some sort of vortex block? Also, this is my first time using co2, so... anyway, i really need feedback, so thanks in advance!
full auto co2 rifle
ok, I am planning a fully automatic 4.5 mm (.177 cal.) co2 bb gun. Here is my rough design.
My biggest question is, would the magazine idea work? Or would I need to do some sort of vortex block? Also, this is my first time using co2, so... anyway, i really need feedback, so thanks in advance!
My biggest question is, would the magazine idea work? Or would I need to do some sort of vortex block? Also, this is my first time using co2, so... anyway, i really need feedback, so thanks in advance!
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I can't enlarge it on computer I'm on now (always something, speakers, etc,) anyhow, it could use a ball detent like jackssmirkingrevenge's design Here, In that post he linked me tothe vogt pattern in a reply.
So without being able to completely see the details, IMO, it should work.
BTW, why aren't you working on this or similar for a contest entry???
Could be fun even if you don't win and gain you respect, a valuable commodity.
8)
So without being able to completely see the details, IMO, it should work.
BTW, why aren't you working on this or similar for a contest entry???
Could be fun even if you don't win and gain you respect, a valuable commodity.
8)
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I can see that you worked real hard on your diagram... just kidding, please don't taze me bro!
Anyway, why not just go with a vortex?
It would work a lot better!
Anyway, why not just go with a vortex?
It would work a lot better!
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A vortex or cloud has more "dead space" than the potential of a "y" shape that fires by suction/pressure.MountainousDew wrote:...Anyway, why not just go with a vortex?
It would work a lot better!
Besides being even more simple to build IMO.
With a ball detent used like JSR's design (I linked to), it has potential.
I have a husky sandblaster I got for about $10.
I figured if nothing else, the handle makes a cool blow nozzle for (something(?)).
I noticed it maybe is a pre-made BBMG and made a thread, didn't get much response though, and found better components to use since.
I might use it for concept testing sometime (if noone else does first). 8)
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As Thunderlord pointed out an adjustable detent would make your ROF managable and increase power as it gives time for pressure buildup. The magazine should also work nicely.
ok, I looked at those links and I couldn't find anything about ball detents, what exactly are those?
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Nice diagram JSR's post top of screen here And explaination.maverik94 wrote:ok, I looked at those links and I couldn't find anything about ball detents, what exactly are those?
Hadn't seen that thread linked to myself...Note to self, read JSR's threads completely...
The thing I mentioned interest in testing is whether a ball detent would work better mounted to the end of magazine (before breech),
or in the breech for a "y" shaped design similar to a giant sandblaster.
8)EDIT: ...similar to your design also.
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so, pretty much like a hop-up
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Hmmm...Decisions...I could ask:maverik94 wrote:so, pretty much like a hop-up
"Are you an illiterate 13 year old?"
OR I could go, "well actualy a hop-up goes on the end of the barrel and has a totally different purpose."
OR I could be a D*CK and go, "I changed my mind, this design will NEVER work (for you)"...
It's a Ball Detent....A BaHAHaaaHaaLLL DE..E EE, TINT...Ball detent....
Now go make a time machine or something...[/jke]... 8)
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ummm, I'm sorry to say this is the second time I am going to report you to the mods, what I meant was It SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE as a hop-up, which it does.
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Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum on which to place it and I shall move the world.
–Archimedes
Defeat is always momentary.
–Carl Denham
Current Project: None, I'm in Spudremission.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." -André Gide
Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum on which to place it and I shall move the world.
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Defeat is always momentary.
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*Reply was deleted in respect for jrrdw a great member/mod...***maverik94 wrote:ummm, I'm sorry to say this is the second time I am going to report you to the mods, what I meant was It SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE as a hop-up, which it does.
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"Procrastination" is five syllables for "Sloth".
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"Procrastination" is five syllables for "Sloth".
Theopia 8)
Born To Be Alive!
