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Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:13 pm

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This is a normal golf ball hitting a steel plate, Amazing how much these things warp. its an insanely high speed, high quality camera, but still really cool
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:47 pm

Holy crap, thats awsome.... Seeing how much damage our golf ball cannons inflict on our targets, imagine how much damage a projectile the same size and weight of a golf ball but harder, would do?
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:11 pm

Is there any data on the velocity of the impact? I'm looking at using golf balls as part of a bumper in a future higher energy design.

In searching related videos, that ball appears to have been in the 150 MPH speed shot at 70,000 frames/sec. A more normal speed impact looks like this. It has much less ball distortion.
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150 MPH is a little faster than your average drive.
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:13 pm

I'm guessing this isn't your video but I'm not sure. If it isn't what source it it from?

To me it doesn't seem real... Think about how much it looks like a ball of water. It seems like a golf ball wouldn't look that liquid like. It would be more springy than flow-y...
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Its not my video, but it was shot at 70,000 fps, and the ball was going 150 mph
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:26 pm

150 mph isn't even as fast as a paintball gun shoots. I just think it's really unlikely that it's a real golf ball but I could very well be mistaken.
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:28 pm

DeathbyDWV, I know you have a HSC so why don't you try getting a video of a GB impact? I wouldn't be as fast but if you're lucky you may see the distortion of the golf ball....
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:31 pm

well 70,000 frames per second is an pretty high quality camera, this might not even be visable to consumer video cameras
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Yeah you're right, but if you're lucky you may get a frame where the ball is getting smashed against the wall...
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:37 pm

I don't think a normal golf ball can take that much distortion. Here is a video of a golf ball on a hydaulic press. It pops with less distortion shown in the video.
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Technician1002 wrote:I don't think a normal golf ball can take that much distortion. Here is a video of a golf ball on a hydaulic press. It pops with less distortion shown in the video.
that may be a result of the press having a smaller diameter than the golf ball and not letting it "splay" out.
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I think the ball is indeed softer than a normal ball, and I think it has a liquid core.
Are you sure that 150 mph is correct?
Maybe someone could count frames and see how fast the ball was really going, assuming an average golfball size.
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Yeah that can't be a regulation golfball, i cut open one with a hacksaw to see what was inside and i found a rock solid, plastic type thing that smelt strongly of chemicals. But i have taken others apart to find the have a bouncy ball wrapped in about 10m of thin rubber band. (I like throwing them and watching them unravel in the air :)

Also, on a program called "How It's Made" it shows how they are made which is pretty cool.

To me it looks like a rubber casing with a liquid inside, as this acts in the same way as water balloons do when the are dropped but do not pop.
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Technician1002 wrote:I don't think a normal golf ball can take that much distortion.
At high speeds, things can react very differently.

If you will, take a grape and a piece of corrugated cardboard. Press the grape into the cardboard, and the grape'll turn into a sticky mess. Fire it at the cardboard at a couple of hundred miles an hour and it'll put a hole through the cardboard. Crushing and an impact are not equivalent.

As far as that golfball footage, it's BBC sports footage, so I'd be surprised if it weren't a regulation golfball. The BBC are unlikely to have much reason to film non-regulation golfballs.
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it reminds me of the jelly scope
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