Any help or redirection is appreciated
General Calculations?
Im sure these are on this site somewhere, but i havent exactly found what im looking for. does anyone know some links or formulas off hand that could help be predict piston force as well as projectile velocity or acceleration? I know the basic physics calculations with velocity/accel/distance/force, but i dont know how air pressure fits into all that since its constant force, instead of impact.
Any help or redirection is appreciated
Any help or redirection is appreciated
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MrCrowley
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As for the projectile questions, this is handy:
http://www.thehalls-in-bfe.com/GGDT/
For predicting piston force, what's wrong with finding the area of the piston exposed to air pressure and using that to figure out the force applied to it (force = pressure x area)? I'm sure you could calculate acceleration and what not as well if required (acceleration = force/mass) it wont be exact but it would do. Perhaps I've misunderstood.
http://www.thehalls-in-bfe.com/GGDT/
For predicting piston force, what's wrong with finding the area of the piston exposed to air pressure and using that to figure out the force applied to it (force = pressure x area)? I'm sure you could calculate acceleration and what not as well if required (acceleration = force/mass) it wont be exact but it would do. Perhaps I've misunderstood.
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Last edited by SpudBlaster15 on Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wow, thanks for the full explanation. 
Also, very helpful calc MrCrowley
So if i have a 2.6lb piston in a 4" chamber and 1.3" stroke at 1000psi, that would be:
a = P*A/m, or 1000*12.56/2.6 = 4833 in/s^2 = 402ft/s^2
Then d=0.5at^2, or 1.3=0.5*402*t^2, so t=0.0804s
Then Vf= a*t, so 32.33ft/s
These last two might be unnecessary, but this is where i'm unclear. how is the impact force calculated? F=MA just gives me the initial force behind the piston, not the energy accumulated over its travel..
Also, very helpful calc MrCrowley
So if i have a 2.6lb piston in a 4" chamber and 1.3" stroke at 1000psi, that would be:
a = P*A/m, or 1000*12.56/2.6 = 4833 in/s^2 = 402ft/s^2
Then d=0.5at^2, or 1.3=0.5*402*t^2, so t=0.0804s
Then Vf= a*t, so 32.33ft/s
These last two might be unnecessary, but this is where i'm unclear. how is the impact force calculated? F=MA just gives me the initial force behind the piston, not the energy accumulated over its travel..
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