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								 Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:29 am
			
			
			
			
			I was looking around and I found a post on 
this
topic that said
Co2 is a no no with pvc. Remake it with copper then you can use co2
I was just wondering if this is true.
Thanks,
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								SEAKING9006				                
							 
	
        
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								 Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:34 am
			
			
			
			
			It's true. CO2 supercools when it expands, and PVC gets very brittle at low tempurature. Not safe.
            
			
									
						
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	        
			
	        
			
		
		
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								 Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:00 pm
			
			
			
			
			jwilson7 wrote:But this wouldn't be true for a BBMG right?
Actually, a BBMG would be the 
worst case. You're dumping 
lots of CO2 through the gun when it fires and it'll freeze up pretty quick.
CO2 should be fine for a semi-auto or single shot setup. A metal expansion chamber will help warm up the CO2 before it is injected into the chamber.
 
            
			
									
						
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	        
			
		
		
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								 Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:55 pm
			
			
			
			
			Haven't there been tons of regged CO2 bbmgs already? Ya know, like the "ultimate inline". BBMGs tend to run at low chamber pressures by nature.
I generally don't even worry about cold pvc since I use eye protection, but when frozen exploding cannons become an epidemic I'll be sure to watch out. 
For now, I can't remember a single case of a cannon exploding from very low temperatures.
            
			
									
						
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	        
			
		
		
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								 Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:04 pm
			
			
			
			
			Plus, a BBMG is typically operating at 15~20 PSIG (even if the reg is set much higher, say 120 PSIG).
Everything is fine, though the gun might ice up. Only problem is, what happens if a round jams in the barrel?
            
			
									
						
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	        
			
		
		
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								 Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:59 pm
			
			
			
			
			I would worry more about the potential high pressures of CO2 in PVC before I would the coldness of it.