I am going to place a NC sprinkler valve in series with my main house ball valve.
How do I open the valve if we get a power outage?
Sprinkler valve question for whole house water valve.
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maybe batteries.. A computer UPS could do the job.
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I was hoping for a physical opening.Technician1002 wrote:maybe batteries.. A computer UPS could do the job.
Another method is to parallel the main water valve that is normally closed when power can be supplied to the SV.
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no offence but it sounds a bit stupid... why do you need a sprinkler valve in the first place ?I am going to place a NC sprinkler valve in series with my main house ball valve
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X2....What's the point Stu?POLAND_SPUD wrote:no offence but it sounds a bit stupid... why do you need a sprinkler valve in the first place ?I am going to place a NC sprinkler valve in series with my main house ball valve
If you want a redundant valve with manual control, why not just use another ball valve?
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most sprinkler valves that I have used have a small plastic lever below the solenoid so that you can open the valve manually. If not a powerful magnet stuck on top of the solenoid should open it and leave it open.
And I'm assuming its for watersaving device so you can shut of all the water to your house from a switch inside. But manually override if the power goes out.
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And I'm assuming its for watersaving device so you can shut of all the water to your house from a switch inside. But manually override if the power goes out.
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You are close.jor2daje wrote:most sprinkler valves that I have used have a small plastic lever below the solenoid so that you can open the valve manually. If not a powerful magnet stuck on top of the solenoid should open it and leave it open.
And I'm assuming its for watersaving device so you can shut of all the water to your house from a switch inside. But manually override if the power goes out.
I want the water on only if there is a person up and about in the toilet, kitchen or laundry room.
I dont see why it wouldnt work, but I think you will need a much larger sprinkler valve so you have enough flow for your whole house.
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sorry but I still don't get it... what's the point of it ? it's not that you are saving anythingI want the water on only if there is a person up and about in the toilet, kitchen or laundry room.
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My house supply is 3/4" PVC.jor2daje wrote:I dont see why it wouldnt work, but I think you will need a much larger sprinkler valve so you have enough flow for your whole house.
Would a 3/4" straight though sprinkler valve be equal to that?
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Roughly yes. A 1" might be a bit better though.boyntonstu wrote:My house supply is 3/4" PVC.jor2daje wrote:I dont see why it wouldnt work, but I think you will need a much larger sprinkler valve so you have enough flow for your whole house.
Would a 3/4" straight though sprinkler valve be equal to that?
Those valves typically operate on 12V or 24V (sometimes AC, sometimes DC). In a power outage the vent screw can be used, though it might dribble water. A 9V battery will operate the valve without any problems, though I don't know how long a 9V battery would be able to operate the valve. A small 12V lead-acid gel battery, with it's own 120VAC charger, would probably be able to operate the valve for a couple days.
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Maybe his toilet leaks and he doesn't know how to fix it?POLAND_SPUD wrote:sorry but I still don't get it... what's the point of it ? it's not that you are saving anythingI want the water on only if there is a person up and about in the toilet, kitchen or laundry room.
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I have the same valve.jor2daje wrote:most sprinkler valves that I have used have a small plastic lever below the solenoid so that you can open the valve manually. If not a powerful magnet stuck on top of the solenoid should open it and leave it open.
And I'm assuming its for watersaving device so you can shut of all the water to your house from a switch inside. But manually override if the power goes out.
What happens if the diaphragm breaks?
Will water go through or will it leak externally?
i doubt it would break as it's rubber but if it does i'm guessing the water woulf just go through. But again, what's the point? a ball valve would be fine and after repeated use the diaphragm might give out.
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This is substantially less than a good idea. What would you do if you have a house fire that you could quickly and easily manage if you have water but, the Sprinkler valve for whatever reason, refuses to open?boyntonstu wrote:I am going to place a NC sprinkler valve in series with my main house ball valve.